MONEY MORAL DILEMMA: Should Harry pay Ron’s speeding fine?

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  • carol_a_3
    carol_a_3 Posts: 1,104 Forumite
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    They should have used Mr Weasley's flying car and flown over the top of the speed cameras.

    Seriously though, I think they should go halves on the fine, Harry for being a lazy so and so and Ron for being a bad driver. If Ron had stuck to the speed limit, made Harry miss his flight it would teach Harry to get up earlier in future. I feel sorry for Ron getting points though when he could have been tucked up in bed!
  • pmd
    pmd Posts: 65 Forumite
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    Harry's got to pay - his fault for oversleeping. Ron gets the points anyway, which could end up being the worse part of the penalty. Presumably they agreed the departure time to allow for driving time, Harry cuts that time down, Ron tries to make sure his mate doesn't miss the flight.

    If Harry doesn't cough up, it'll be the last time friend Ron offers to help him out.
  • Primrose
    Primrose Posts: 10,625 Forumite
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    If Harry was half decent, he would acknowledge that his lie-in was at the root of the problem and offer to pay the fine. And if he didn't offer (and I was Ron) I wouldn't offer my services a second time. If people are putting themselves out to do you a favour, the very least you can do is have the consideration to make life as simple as possible for them.
  • dannahaz
    dannahaz Posts: 1,068 Forumite
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    Harry should pay, and in fact the miserbale git should have OFFERED to pay without Ron asking. Not much of a friend, is he?
  • epninety
    epninety Posts: 563 Forumite
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    Not a hypothetical for me... I put a mate in this situation.

    We were rushing to a garage just before closing time to get a part for my car. A laden quarry truck pulled out causing us to slow right down, at the bottom of a long hill. Overtaking here is technically illegal (road markings) but perfectly safe (wide road, long visibility, no turn-offs etc.). We looked at each other and both said 'Go!'.

    Unfortunately neither of us spotted that the white van behind was a police van :eek:

    My mate took the points, I paid his fine. The least I could do, no question.

    PS: Interesting twist... My mate didn't initially tell me about the fine, he made out he'd only got a stiff talking to. Guess that makes us both 'good guys'.
  • rjcb23
    rjcb23 Posts: 77 Forumite
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    I was in a similar situation to Ron and Harry.

    I needed to buy a car as I was moving jobs and needed transport. I saw one in the paper and got my friend Simon to take me to see it on his motorbike.

    After seeing it, we were on the motorway back home when we were pulled over by the boys in blue.

    My mate was fined and given 3 points.

    Now, I know that we didn't need to hurry back; Simon was just going too fast (we were clocked at doing over 100mph -eek!) But I still felt guilty as he wouldnt have been on the bike if I hadnt asked for the favour.

    So I paid the fine, and he got the points (and the increase to his insurance premium of course)

    I thougth that was a fair deal.

    Tip: the best way to get out of paying speeding fines is to not speed in the first place. IT'S BETTER TO ARRIVE LATE, THAN *DEAD* ON TIME

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  • burgers3
    burgers3 Posts: 21 Forumite
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    epninety wrote: »
    Not a hypothetical for me... I put a mate in this situation.

    We were rushing to a garage just before closing time to get a part for my car. A laden quarry truck pulled out causing us to slow right down, at the bottom of a long hill. Overtaking here is technically illegal (road markings) but perfectly safe (wide road, long visibility, no turn-offs etc.). We looked at each other and both said 'Go!'.

    Unfortunately neither of us spotted that the white van behind was a police van :eek:

    My mate took the points, I paid his fine. The least I could do, no question.

    PS: Interesting twist... My mate didn't initially tell me about the fine, he made out he'd only got a stiff talking to. Guess that makes us both 'good guys'.


    No it was not perfectly safe or the road markings would not of said other wise its no over taking for a resson.

    But back to Harry & Ron the driver of the car is in the wrong he has his foot on the accelarator, if some one cant get there butt out of bed hard luck.

    My sister was run over by some one over taking were they shouldent & speeding, ask her I dont fink ur find much sympathy.
  • rcherryuk
    rcherryuk Posts: 17 Forumite
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    dannahaz wrote: »
    Harry should pay, and in fact the miserbale git should have OFFERED to pay without Ron asking. Not much of a friend, is he?

    I couldn't have put it better myself!:beer:
  • Optimist
    Optimist Posts: 4,556 Forumite
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    Harry should pay. I would if it were me.
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."

    Bertrand Russell. British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)
  • dranz100
    dranz100 Posts: 21 Forumite
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    Any pressure from Harry for Ron to do anything risky or illegal is where the friend's morals should be questioned, not at the consequence (ie. £60) stage.

    But ultimately, Ron was the driver, and he has the responsibility for the speeding ticket and anything else, including much worse, that happens en route.
    That's what driving is! Its not sitting behind a steering wheel like a trained monkey!

    What would happen if Harry had taken a minicab instead and asked him to speed?

    Praps Harry should have driven himself to the airport in either his or Rons car, with Ron as a passenger. Then the responsibility for the actions taken to recover from his lie-in would stop with him.

    If I was Harry I wouldn't begrudge paying the £60, but it would depend on what I'd asked him to do as to how happy I was to pay it.
    And if Ron had run over a child whilst speeding, would Harry be splitting the £1m law suit?
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