Would you consider boiler rental ?

Dan_Potter

So far I'm not impressed with Everlasting Boilers.
I spoke to their online chat towards the end of December. Arranged a date for them to visit. They said they hasn't worked this far south yet (near Portsmouth, Hampshire) and would have to wait until the sales rep was in the area. so i said yeah, that's fine, when is the earliest. The earliest date the could do is the Friday 22nd Feb, I said yes. So I booked the day off for for this 2 months in advance. On the Wednesday the week before I got a call from their sales person asked if they could move it forward by one week. I said well not really as I cannot easily move my day off work like that, so we kept the original day. I was working in Ireland Monday tilll Thursday, and made sure I was back for the Friday 22nd. I got no call from them. I waited in all day Friday. So wasted a day off work for them.
Their only number to call is an 0845 number. It is a bit annoying. If they don't want the business then I'm happy to let British Gas come and let me know what they have.
I original got in contact with Everlasting Boilers through a Solar website as I was going to give them a go, even though my roof is south facing, apparently it not the right shape.

rodmunch

I have BG coming round tomorrow and Everlasting Boilers on the 5th april i shall let you know what they say. I also have no working boiler and did try the Green deal route but was quoted £800 upfront fee. has anyone else had anything from the Green deal?:beer:

rodmunch

BG came round and quoted £2800 cash or £56 pm over 8yrs £5376 so no way hose. EB coming tomorrow and still waiting for the GD people to get back to me as i now have the £800 all inc fee ready. I'll let you know when i know:beer:

barjohnivell

Hi

Just had EB round and for a Combi install instead of a separate tank, they have quoted £45 per month over 14 years, this goes up by 3% each year after year 2 so I am now sat debating what to do as although I have signed up, I have a 14 day cooling off period. I agree with Pandapaws as I believe it is not the cheapest option, but at least I get a new boiler with a maintainance contract for the period. Basically over the period we're paying back nearly £10,000,
I think the key thing is to not think it's costing £10,000, but to think it is an affordable monthly payment with a service contract. The 'rep' was polite and knowledgeable and was not at all pushy, and yes I'm sure he's on commission, and yes the company will make a profit. I currently have a 25 year old Back boiler that has worked non stop for many years with only 2 faults costing less than £100, but is not efficient. The hardest thing for me is to think is it worth sticking with the current boiler especially as Summer is approaching, or going for the new contract?

spinningsheep

Barjohnivell, if you were to update your boiler to a new condensing one, you will NOT see the alledged 30% savings quoted by manufacturers. These figures are based on the boiler running at 90% + efficiency all the time, and unless you are ripping out your whole CH system and starting afresh, there is no way you would get the required output from your radiators to keep your house warm at the low flow temperatures the boiler would need to be running at to achieve 90%+ efficiency. The boiler you have may not be as efficient as a new one, however you will NEVER recoup through gas savings the cost of the new boiler install. Period. Any RGI will tell you if the boiler is running well and parts are still available, keep the old boiler and repair as and when required. Very little to go wrong with an old BBU. Better to pay £45 a month into a savings account to cover any repairs that may arise.

yugo311

Hi all, yes this is correct, I have had one of these Everlasting Boilers fitted a few months ago, before & during installation etc I kept asking 'who' made these boilers (as years ago I used to work for a well known gas burner manufacturer in Leeds) they did state 'made exclusively' for us but wouldn't name supplier
But once installed and signed all the bumf upon reading the 'user manual' on the back of it, it clearly prints 'Ravenheat' of Morley, West Yorkshire a stones throw from my home!!
But having put this to one side, this company however young they are at this but being a sister company of A Shade Greener who have from what I have read so far a pretty well good reputation.
We did have a minor issue at the start being with the sales teams information via their 'live chat' about the boiler & contract details did contradict from what the home visit sales guy told us which I had to double & double check because it wasn't clearly verbally stated that along with the monthly costs over the 14 year deal that at the end of the 14 years you also have to buy out of the contract before the '14 year old boiler' is now 100% yours thus making the overall deal £7k plus.
So when the confusion was finally sorted I still went ahead with a new boiler fitted by them and so far so good, the heating, hot water performance and running costs have been great and we have noticed lower heating bills.
So in the long run you are paying for peace of mind which was one of the main factors which swung me into taking this offer, so the minor issue above I possibly would put it down to young company teething or better staff training.
Shop around like anything else, but a new boiler & power flush is included which again swung me.

mozzer251

The boiler looks like it's based on the latest Ravenheat models that come with a 5 year warranty. The wireless controller seems to be a Ravenheat one as well.

The Fernox inline filter and scale reducer are a good idea as well.

poet123

Any more opinions on this scheme?

Sirlaughalot

Ok i have read through this thread and would like to thank all the posters for your good work! So how would this scheme apply to our home. We live in a 4 bedroom 25 year old house. The boiler was fitted from new and is manufactured by glowworm and is their space saver model. It has broken down once in the 11 years we have lived in the house and we had to replace a out fire relay £80. we dont have the boiler serviced.
While the boiler is not broken we are aware that probability suggests a non cost effective repair may be due in the future. We felt initially with all the talk of grade A efficient boilers now available we would be best to replace the boiler ASAP and save upto £300 on gas bills. However due to the comments on this thread these savings appear impossible to achieve and futhermore the initial outlay cost £2700 would far out way any savings from the efficientcy of the new boiler( not forgetting the new annual service costs to keep the 5/10 year gaurantee in force).
For our hosehold we have decided to get our energy savings by by using the comparison sites to get cheaper suppliers and also replace our lighting to energy saving bulbs.

When the time comes to replace our boiler i think there are very good merits to this boiler replacement scheme and after doing a few basic calculations and waying up all the options it looks like we would be paying between £300/£1000 more over the 15 year term which for total peace of mind is not bad. However i do worry about what would happen if our working circumstances changed or we had to sell the house.

Ashadegreener_representative

Sirlaughalot wrote: »

However i do worry about what would happen if our working circumstances changed or we had to sell the house.

Hi,

If the working circumstances of an Everlasting Boiler customer changes they are advised to contact the office so that a temporary arrangement can be made.

When a property with an Everlasting Boiler is sold then there are two options; the new homeowner can take up the remainder of the agreement or the boiler can simply be bought out. The cost of the boiler decreases over time and it is not the agreement that must be bought out, just the boiler.

Any questions just ask