Cost of Food & Obesity Amongst Poorer People

Loughton_Monkey

What with the number of recipes on this thread, I got confused and thought I've been reading Mumsnet!

chewmylegoff

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

What with the number of recipes on this thread, I got confused and thought I've been reading Mumsnet!

what are you talking about? of course this is mumsnet. have you hit your head? have you also forgotten that you are the mother of two lovely siblings, graham and hamish?

whatever next?!

Loughton_Monkey

chewmylegoff wrote: »

what are you talking about? of course this is mumsnet. have you hit your head? have you also forgotten that you are the mother of two lovely siblings, graham and hamish?

whatever next?!

Phew!!

I need a very large gin & tonic. Consider me gone for the next few hours!

Koicarp

Basal metabolic rate formulas, now you can see how many calories it takes to stay morbidly obese.

English BMR Formula
Women: BMR = 655 + ( 4.35 x weight in pounds ) + ( 4.7 x height in inches ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )
Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )

Saturnalia

How does it work, Koicarp? I've worked mine out and I get 1391. I'm sure I eat more calories than that in a day, but my weight has remained the same for donkey's years, only fluctuating when I've been unwell & seriously over- or under-eating.

And weight in pounds seems very simple, doesn't muscle burn a lot more than fat, and does bone burn anything at all?

I'm not saying you are wrong here - it's just that I don't understand. I've probably missed something really simple.

Koicarp

This is the BASAL rate, ie if you were unconscious on an ICU this is the number of calories you need daily to maintain weight, it doesn't take your activity into account. If someone is extremely large, they won't be able to move about much so it's a good point to start when working out how many calories can be cut. A more active person would need more calories to suit their levels of activity in order to maintain weight.

wotsthat

Saturnalia wrote: »

How does it work, Koicarp? I've worked mine out and I get 1391. I'm sure I eat more calories than that in a day, but my weight has remained the same for donkey's years, only fluctuating when I've been unwell & seriously over- or under-eating.

And weight in pounds seems very simple, doesn't muscle burn a lot more than fat, and does bone burn anything at all?

I'm not saying you are wrong here - it's just that I don't understand. I've probably missed something really simple.

Basic metabolic rate is the calories you'd use if you spent 24 hours/ day asleep. I don't know how accurate the formulae are but I got 2000 calories/ day - seems about right - I'm in an office job and need 2400 calories/ day (if I don't exercise) to maintain my weight.

How did you get 1391 - seems quite low?

ILW

wotsthat wrote: »

Basic metabolic rate is the calories you'd use if you spent 24 hours/ day asleep. I don't know how accurate the formulae are but I got 2000 calories/ day - seems about right - I'm in an office job and need 2400 calories/ day (if I don't exercise) to maintain my weight.

How did you get 1391 - seems quite low?

Civil Servant then.

posh*spice

I thought posters might find this interesting

Our social environment encourages obesity

We can't begin to treat obesity when the food and drink industry has so much invested in it

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/oct/16/our-social-environment-encourages-obesity

I'm not sure I agree. I think "the public gets what the public wants" that is, the food industry provides the food that people want to buy....and at the moment that just happens to be the unhealthy stuff...

nicko33

Saturnalia wrote: »

How does it work, Koicarp?

To calculate daily calorie needs, the BMR value is multiplied by a factor with a value between 1.2 and 1.9, depending on the person's activity level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_metabolic_rate#BMR_estimation_formulas

BMR x 1.2 little to no exercise
BMR x 1.375 light exercise (1-3 days per week)
BMR x 1.55 moderate exercise (3-5 days per week)
BMR x 1.725 heavy exercise (6-7 days per week)
BMR x 1.9 very heavy exercise (twice per day, extra heavy workouts)

there are some others
http://articles.muscletalk.co.uk/article-predictive-equations-bmr.aspx

"For healthy, non-obese individuals
The Mifflin equation performed the best; in 82% of cases, the prediction was ±10% of measured RMR"

so best prediction is +/- 10%