Cost of Food & Obesity Amongst Poorer People

CLAPTON

aliasojo wrote: »

Did anyone watch the fat to thin celeb prog last night?

It was about famous folk who shed their weight. They struggled with their weight for years but in every single case, money was what enabled them to finally change their ways.

They had money to go to the gym every day (3 times a day in one case), they had money to buy in prepared healthy food. They had money for gastric band surgery, they had money to buy good clothes to help make them feel a little better about themselves during the process. etc, etc.

Now I'm not suggesting buying in prepared meals for example, is the way to go, but for this person in particular, this was the only thing that had ever worked for her in countless years of weight issues.

I've always believed money facilitates easier change in many areas of life.

so they took a group of rich fat celebs who lost weight and amazingly found out that they were rich.


incredible.


maybe they will run a program about poor fat plebs who lost weight and will find out they were poor.

aliasojo

ILW wrote: »

You seem to be saying that poor people are stupid. All the above are available at little or no cost.

JUST EAT LESS.

I don't know why you bother replying half the time. You do seem to put your own slant on what's being said.

aliasojo

CLAPTON wrote: »

so they took a group of rich fat celebs who lost weight and amazingly found out that they were rich.

OMG.

It's like chatting with people from different planets.

Ok guys, I get it. Input other than a certain type is not required here.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The conventional post war wisdom regarding diet and exercise is largely being debunked by modern research. Research on paleolithic diets is very interesting and mostly eradicates the blatant lies the diet and sugar industries severally tell people about sugar and saturated fats.

Its possible to eat a very high fat diet loaded with cholesterol (incidently there is still no reliable research that shows cholesterol causes heart disease, its kwack science that is promoted energetically by every food company who's balance sheet relies on selling things labelled as "low fat", and a medical industry that should bloody well know better).

Poor people are likely to be obese because the cheap version of convenience foods that everyone eat are loaded with sugar. The food industry loads cheap food with sugar because this substance is addictive, and it makes people eat more. Even hamburger buns are loaded with sugar now, and an equal amount of salt to disguise it.

Poor people will be less likely to be obese when the cynical diet food and junk food industries are more reliably debunked. Meanwhile Weight Watchers and McDonalds will keep pushing unhealthy junk filled foods at people and calling them good.

maybe share your knowledge of paleolithic diets, exercise regimes and life expectancy

mrcow

aliasojo wrote: »

OMG.

It's like chatting with people from different planets.

Well I get what you're saying. Certainly being able to afford to go to a gym (if that's the way you're going to do it) can help, as can being able to afford to buy new clothes when you drop a dress size to help stay motivated.

But it's not the be all and end all. changing eating habits - in particular controlling your portion size and food choices is what is going to make the difference. You don't need to spend more money to eat less food. And you don't need to spend more money to switch what you eat to better choices.

I also think having a job or being busy can be a great motivator to losing weight. After all, if you're at home all day, it's harder to stay out of the kitchen etc if you have a more unhealthy relationship with food than normal.

But at the end of the day, it's down to two things - self control. And time.

Have enough of both and you will see long-term results whatever your budget.

aliasojo

mrcow wrote: »

Well I get what you're saying. Certainly being able to afford to go to a gym (if that's the way you're going to do it) can help, as can being able to afford to buy new clothes when you drop a dress size to help stay motivated.

But it's not the be all and end all.

No it's not, I agree. It was just an *aspect* of an issue which clearly is difficult for many and has many different triggers and solutions.

ILW

aliasojo wrote: »

No it's not, I agree. It was just an *aspect* of an issue which clearly is difficult for many and has many different triggers and solutions.

All this twaddle about "triggers" etc is just excuses.

If you are happy being fat that is OK.

If you want to lose weight it is very simple, but you need to accept that you will not be able to eat as much as you feel like.

Why is the concept so difficult for people to understand.

mrcow

ILW wrote: »

All this twaddle about "triggers" etc is just excuses.

If you are happy being fat that is OK.

What's so wrong with having an excuse? You talk like it's something to be ashamed of.

If you don't believe that e.g. stress, or e.g. depression can be very real triggers for comfort eating then sorry, but you've got your head in a bubble.

It's got nothing to do with being happy being fat. But dealing with your triggers for overeating or changing the way that you react to these triggers is vital if you're going to be successful in the long term.

ILW

mrcow wrote: »

What's so wrong with having an excuse? You talk like it's something to be ashamed of.

If you don't believe that e.g. stress, or e.g. depression can be very real triggers for comfort eating then sorry, but you've got your head in a bubble.

It's got nothing to do with being happy being fat. But dealing with your triggers for overeating or changing the way that you react to these triggers is vital if you're going to be successful in the long term.

Sorry, just sounds like false justification.

Do I want to lose weight? - Yes
If I eat less will I achieve that? - Yes
Will losing the weight make me happier? - Yes?

All the time people are given excuses they are less likely to achieve.

The_White_Horse

because fat lazy chavs are just that. fat and lazy. why buy fresh which means you have to do something, when you can buy ready made pizza or whatever. these people are fat and lazy because they are fat and lazy. this is why they are the dregs of society, poncing off most people's forced charity.