Cost of Food & Obesity Amongst Poorer People

Bayblue

I don't think that all the free gym passes and cheaper healthy food will/would help. It's not so much about the content of the food we eat, or the quantity although they both play a part it's more complex than that.

The rise of the car, the use of labour saving devices, the decline of manual work, most of our 'leisure' time being based around electronic devices convenience foods are all part of the reasons but there has also been a huge change in social attitudes. One small example-In the past it was considered ill mannered to eat in the street, now it's perfectly normal. Added to that eating itself has become a leisure activity and built an immense economy around it. We could feed this nation comfortably and probably more healthily using a fraction of the resources which we use up now, but I doubt that most individuals would be very happy with that.

We live to eat now, whereas we used to eat to live and we're not doing anything like the amount of physical activity that we are designed to do. TBH I think that the way we've structured our society and the lifestyles in it we must expect people to get fatter.

jane_smith

I think also that the poorer side of the community are not able to afford to go out as much as the wealthy and so often in this day that means that entertainment comes in the form of television.

The more advertising and product placement you see the more I think you are likely to buy those things. There's more money put into coke adverts than carrot ads ......

mrcow

ILW wrote: »

Sorry, just sounds like false justification.

Well it depends on how the excuse is being used.

Some people just find these things harder. It doesn't mean that they shouldn't try though.

adouglasmhor

MrsE wrote: »

Portion sizes.
When I was a kid you bought one item of sweets from the corner shop. Now people buy multi packs & family packs. Everything is super sized now.
Plus we don't do hunger anymore.
When I was a kid you would be really hungry before each meal, now people graze in between meals & often don't ever get really hungry.

Calorie intake in the 1950s it not much different to intake now.

adouglasmhor

CLAPTON wrote: »

maybe share your knowledge of paleolithic diets, exercise regimes and life expectancy

Paleo diet debunked.

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/anthropology/paleo-diet-rubbish-t6403.html

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Paleo_diet

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2012/01/dont-eat-like-a-caveman/

http://greatist.com/health/debunking-diets-paleo-facts/

ruggedtoast

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Paleo diet debunked.

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/anthropology/paleo-diet-rubbish-t6403.html

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Paleo_diet

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2012/01/dont-eat-like-a-caveman/

http://greatist.com/health/debunking-diets-paleo-facts/

Did you actually bother to read any of those links? None of them effectively debunk a paleolithic diet, two of them aren't trying to and one is itself immediately debunked in the comment section.

'Must try harder'

ILW

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Did you actually bother to read any of those links? None of them effectively debunk a paleolithic diet, two of them aren't trying to and one is itself immediately debunked in the comment section.

'Must try harder'

Forget all this diet stuff.

JUST EAT LESS

adouglasmhor

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Did you actually bother to read any of those links? None of them effectively debunk a paleolithic diet, two of them aren't trying to and one is itself immediately debunked in the comment section.

'Must try harder'

I think your understanding is flawed. Like the claims of the "inventor" of the Paleo diet.

ruggedtoast

adouglasmhor wrote: »

I think your understanding is flawed. Like the claims of the "inventor" of the Paleo diet.

I am happy to have my understanding augmented. However randomly linking odd pages off the internet that you have clearly not bothered to read, in response to a google search you have done searching for a particular answer is not going to add to anyone's knowledge.

I can google "proof aliens exist" and provide you ten links "proving" they do.

There is a vast amount of interesting, thought provoking and scientifically valid evidence about paleolithic diets and weight loss and associated health gains.

If you have an actual reason why you think this isn't valid then fire away. If its just something you dont know anything about but have closed your mind to then why bother posting?

chewmylegoff

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I am happy to have my understanding augmented. However randomly linking odd pages off the internet that you have clearly not bothered to read, in response to a google search you have done searching for a particular answer is not going to add to anyone's knowledge.

I can google "proof aliens exist" and provide you ten links "proving" they do.

There is a vast amount of interesting, thought provoking and scientifically valid evidence about paleolithic diets and weight loss and associated health gains.

If you have an actual reason why you think this isn't valid then fire away. If its just something you dont know anything about but have closed your mind to then why bother posting?

The fourth link even says there is scientific evidence that the diet works...