MSE News: George Osborne to make £10bn welfare cuts

Credit-Crunched

Before we start to turn on the pensioners and question their contribution, lets not forget one major contribution that they made that we could not even imagine, Two World Wars.

For me that in itself is entitlement to a decent standard of living in their later years.

Lets focus on the real scourge on the benefits system here, its not the genuinely disabled, or the vulnerable, it is the millions who see benefits (or benifits, as they call it) as a lifestyle and entitlement.

Speaking up you get called, harsh, or right wing. However, we all know that there are many many people who are not looking for jobs, who have no inclination to look for work, and see their benefits as an entitlement, having put nothing back into the system.

As for the initial point, I shared a house with 7 lads when I was early 20’s to break the costs down, I was not entitled to this, I worked hard, put enough money aside for rent and bills.

For me, the first politician, who stands up and says “the benefits system needs a complete overhaul as there are many wasters and scroungers ruining it for the genuinely needy”

Before the extreme left come on here an say that every person on benefits is not a thief, or lazy, I GET THAT.

But a reality check, or trip to any major housing estate in the UK will show you that it is being exploited, and myself and the other tax payers are feeling the squeeze more than anyone, and getting less and less back.

It will come to a breaking point soon…

TSx

topaziem wrote: »

Maybe, but they are still in the pub on a Friday and Saturday night - I would ask the question then - were do they get the money from then?

Again, from personal experience - I spent 3 months on JSA looking for a job - and yes, I still went out occasionally with friends - mainly using money which I had saved (not a huge amount, just under £500) from my last pay packet. I saw JSA as money to pay my bills, and my savings to pay for the luxuries.

Do people think there's a difference between someone who's on JSA temporarily but has worked for many years paying taxes, and someone who's never worked a day in their lives. Should they be treated differently?

I'd much rather see a two-tier system (for unemployment, no disability) for benefits, based on contributions and willingness to work.

FBaby

Murphymycat wrote: »

How are people expected to get to the shops to make use of these vouchers? When I last looked local buses didn't offer free transport for the unemployed. Not everyone either lives close to the shops or is physically capable of walking long distances.

This made me laugh. Someone on another thread made a statement that if those earning over £50k had high housing costs, they should move to cheaper area and commute. I wonder if they would apply the same attitude to this response and suggest that those on benefits move closer to where the shops, and even better the jobs are...

clemmatis

topaziem wrote: »

Either he is a troll

There's an awful lot of that around right now

Dunroamin

PaulF81 wrote: »

Taking into account how long the NHS has OAPs living now, they didn't pay enough into the system.

You surely aren't stupid enough not to know how many pensioners are still paying income tax?

Dunroamin

topaziem wrote: »

The only trouble is as far as I am concerned is that nobody need pay anything in at all - they could very well claim JSA and receive national insurance credits - be unemployed for 30 years or more and they will end up with the same pension as somebody that has worked for 30 years - now that is unfair if I accept your views.

Far worst than that happens and nothing to do with NIC credits. If you haven't paid anything in at all, you're eligible for pension credit which is about 50% more than the pension you receive for working for 30 years.

mumcoll

I know of someone who has six kids by several men, has never worked. She openly brags about 'loving my free time'. Has Sky, internet etc., smokes AND has a working partner, that she doesn't admit to of course.

I have reported her but nothing has changed.

Witchfinder_General

Dunroamin wrote: »

Far worst than that happens and nothing to do with NIC credits. If you haven't paid anything in at all, you're eligible for pension credit which is about 50% more than the pension you receive for working for 30 years.

I hope you are joking ONW?

jamespir

PaulF81 wrote: »

Food and clothes vouchers only. Too much benefit goes on sky subscriptions, ciggys and special brew.

so they dont have electric to pay or broadband or gas or water what about the extra rent some people have to pay

what about transport to get to interviews

Dunroamin

Witchfinder_General wrote: »

I hope you are joking ONW?

No I'm not, why would you think that?