MSE News: George Osborne to make £10bn welfare cuts

krisskross

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I was an immigrant in Spain and never expected to be considered anything else. In fact I remember another British person getting quite upset when I referred to us as immigrants - she somehow thought we were different.

I wish I had never said anything about racism - all I meant was that our little island has too many people already so could do without any more. That is honestly all I meant. Nothing else. I apologise if I have offended anyone.

You could never offend anyone:rotfl:

PRINCESSX87

What I find hard to understand is that, In this country if someone claims benefits for what ever reason, Your automatically looked down apon.

Me and my OH are a young couple that have seen first hand both sides of the fence.

My partner works on average 30 - 40 hours a week with a unreliable employer. His weekly (Work) is never guaranteed and can cut quickly with a phone call.

He’s been looking for another job for a year. He’s not being picky, Just looking for something that would cover the roof over our heads. So far, He’s not received one interview.

Me, I managed to get a job with a leading supermarker, Started with x amount of hours, Then the cuts come and my hours dropped to 3 hours per week. I was coming home with £70 per month.

Now, We’ve no choice to claim a small amount of housing benefit just to keep our home over our heads, Yet with this being cut, Its looking like, Unless we win the lotto - We could soon well be homeless. We’re not entitled to anymore benefits & even tax credits have told us our income was too high from what the government states.

Its ok for those people who are high earners to complain about people being on benefits and not working, However, There isn’t any work about unless you can afford to live / eat / travel / keep warm on a very basic wage.

Vincent_Buenisedes

mazza111 wrote: »

In all fairness MUMZ2BEE I've heard that argument from my x hubby but then he's not worked nor looked for work since I left him. So I would say they are only taking jobs from people who want them.

It's the Polish he's got a beef against. Mainly I think because they've moved a load of them into his estate and it's now known locally as little Warsaw. Not saying it's right, because every Polish person I've worked with or know have been very hard working and more than pay their way in society.

I do agree we need to do something with regards to immigration, but I'm not talking EU countries here.

Dog whistle detected! Dog whistle detected!

Dunroamin

PRINCESSX87 wrote: »

What I find hard to understand is that, In this country if someone claims benefits for what ever reason, Your automatically looked down apon.

Me and my OH are a young couple that have seen first hand both sides of the fence.

My partner works on average 30 - 40 hours a week with a unreliable employer. His weekly (Work) is never guaranteed and can cut quickly with a phone call.

He’s been looking for another job for a year. He’s not being picky, Just looking for something that would cover the roof over our heads. So far, He’s not received one interview.

Me, I managed to get a job with a leading supermarker, Started with x amount of hours, Then the cuts come and my hours dropped to 3 hours per week. I was coming home with £70 per month.

Now, We’ve no choice to claim a small amount of housing benefit just to keep our home over our heads, Yet with this being cut, Its looking like, Unless we win the lotto - We could soon well be homeless. We’re not entitled to anymore benefits & even tax credits have told us our income was too high from what the government states.

Its ok for those people who are high earners to complain about people being on benefits and not working, However, There isn’t any work about unless you can afford to live / eat / travel / keep warm on a very basic wage.

HB isn't being cut, it's just that claimants aren't being allowed to claim for extra rooms they don't need.

Trying to support two people on one wage is always going to be a problem.

Vincent_Buenisedes

PRINCESSX87 wrote: »

What I find hard to understand is that, In this country if someone claims benefits for what ever reason, Your automatically looked down apon.

Me and my OH are a young couple that have seen first hand both sides of the fence.

My partner works on average 30 - 40 hours a week with a unreliable employer. His weekly (Work) is never guaranteed and can cut quickly with a phone call.

He’s been looking for another job for a year. He’s not being picky, Just looking for something that would cover the roof over our heads. So far, He’s not received one interview.

Me, I managed to get a job with a leading supermarker, Started with x amount of hours, Then the cuts come and my hours dropped to 3 hours per week. I was coming home with £70 per month.

Now, We’ve no choice to claim a small amount of housing benefit just to keep our home over our heads, Yet with this being cut, Its looking like, Unless we win the lotto - We could soon well be homeless. We’re not entitled to anymore benefits & even tax credits have told us our income was too high from what the government states.

Its ok for those people who are high earners to complain about people being on benefits and not working, However, There isn’t any work about unless you can afford to live / eat / travel / keep warm on a very basic wage.

Exactly. I think too many people are confusing "work" with "jobs". There's work, where there is a job to do, but no guarantee of hours from day to day, and there's a job, where the hours are guaranteed over a longer period of time. Presently, there is more of the former than the latter and this is the problem. For all the part-time jobs and zero-hour contracts we have, there's no such thing as part-time or zero-hour rent/mortgages, so people, however hard they try, will end up needing some form of assistance from social security to keep a roof over their heads.

Also, I think it is unfair to say that immigrants are anymore hard working than their indigenous counterparts because it simply isn't true. I work alongside immigrants in warehouses and guess what? They !!!!! and moan about their lot as well. They hate their landlords who charge them extortionate rents and the agencies who short-change them and generally muck them about. The reason why they stick at it is because of the income differential between the UK and their own countries. Not so much the Polish anymore, but certainly for Africa and the Indian sub-continent. That is a much greater incentive for them than it is for Brits, where at the bottom of the labour market you can run as fast as you want, but you get anywhere.

clemmatis

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

(ETA: as we appear to be giving our academic qualifications,).

My fault. Sorry. In a way, anyway. I aggressed because of this (bold added)

Mara69 wrote: »

Oh and the reason most politicians have a better standard of life is because they worked hard at school, studied at University and gained excellent degrees (David Cameron got a First at Oxford - they don't just give them away, you know). What's your education history, Mumz? Let's face it, your infantile username tells us pretty much everything we need to know about you.

and partly derailed the thread. That's a little ironic as I was for the most part avoiding the thread because of "topaziem"'s trolling.

clemmatis

Vincent_Buenisedes wrote: »

Dog whistle detected! Dog whistle detected!

Yes. Here we go.

Anny_2

krisskross wrote: »

At least I don't mention him in every post I make. I don't go on until everyone is totally glassy eyed and thinking 'Oh god not this again'. And why is she a dd? What on earth is wrong with the word daughter? You literally spam every thread you can about her. You sound like someone with Munchausens by proxy except you just write about it.

What a truly horrid post.

I never go 'glassy eyed' or think 'oh god, not this again' when reading mazza111's posts...so do not make statements that include me by using the term 'everyone'. I read mazza111's posts and see only the concerns of a mother for her daughter living with a disability and going through the 'baffling' system of disability benefits. Munchhausens by proxy?...how insulting to label someone on the basis of your own uninformed assumptions.

Almost everyone uses the abbreviations DD, DS, DH etc on this forum, it is common practice, to question someone's use of those abbreviations without questioning any other posters for using them is rather strange.

Mara69

Anny wrote: »

What a truly horrid post.

So why quote it? If you are so offended, why not take a course of action that doesn't keep the offending post at the forefront of the thread?

I really don't get this logic - I am deeply offended by a post so I am going to quote it. Completely illogical.

Morlock

Anny wrote: »

I never go 'glassy eyed' or think 'oh god, not this again' when reading mazza111's posts...so do not make statements that include me by using the term 'everyone'.

I agree. Do not presume to speak for me to give credence to your assertions.