MSE News: George Osborne to make £10bn welfare cuts

MissMoneypenny

chinagirl wrote: »

Also where is the incentive to youngsters to work, when they know not working seems to be the key to independence nowadays !!:(

Their incentive is pride...well that and the fact that the workshy and overbreeders are going to have to take a dip in their expected living standard; there is still another 10 billion to cut from the UK's welfare bill.

MissMoneypenny

Ellejmorgan wrote: »

Problem is though you lot who critisize don't know the system,
I'm getting told all sorts on here, yet I claim ESA, i'm assessed every 6 months, I'm in the WRAG which means in time with help and support I could eventually do some work..

So am I a genuine claimant or not, can't be both

Your post count just on this site alone shows you spend a lot of time on the internet, so your disablilty that you say you have, doesn't seem to stop you using a laptop. If you can type and use a computer, then you can also use the phone; that gives you quite a lot of options for jobs.

MissMoneypenny

Ellejmorgan wrote: »

Problem is though you lot who critisize don't know the system,

I'll agree with you there. Claimants always know the system.

Dunroamin

Vincent_Buenisedes wrote: »

What's the parents income got to do with anything? If the kid is unemployed and managed to bag himself a flat I say good luck to him:D

I would assume that this is a wind up but it's interesting that two other people agree with you.

Vincent_Buenisedes

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Their incentive is pride...well that and the fact that the workshy and overbreeders are going to have to take a dip in their expected living standard; there is still another 10 billion to cut from the UK's welfare bill.

Yeah, because pride is going to pay for food on the table, a roof over their head, and consume other goods and services which helps our consumer led economy:doh:

As for the rest of your post - change the record would ya!

MissMoneypenny

Vincent_Buenisedes wrote: »

What's the parents income got to do with anything? If the kid is unemployed and managed to bag himself a flat I say good luck to him:D

That's what the entiled to class expect to be given.

I can almost hear the howls as the next lot of welfare cuts come in:D

mazza111

The holier than though attitude on this forum is staggering.

Elle I hope you have reported some of those personal attacks.

I too had my children when I though I was in a stable *cough* loving relationship. My then husband was out working, earning a decent wage. Funny that as soon as I seen the abuse I was taking through another's eyes and left him, he stopped working. He now pays something like £10 every fortnight out his benefits. Woopeedoo. I certainly didn't set out to become a single parent, although there are plenty that do. I just wish people wouldn't tar us all with the same brush.

I have worked all my adult life. Since the age about 14 when I started part time in my sister's salon. I think i've been unemployed for about a total of 1 week in all that time up until I was medically retired from my last job. A few months on the sick after DS was born due to PND. Medically retired, age 41, job seeked for a couple of months until I had a further accident that put paid to the plan of getting back to work.

Now I find I can't work, and all I see on these forums, especially by a few. Is abuse and asking questions they have no right to ask. It's the same people over and over again. But they are claiming benefits themselves, and are coming across as jealous of anyone who gets DLA because they're too old to get it. And as for those who say you should have put in to take out. Seriously!! Get a grip, there are plenty of people who can't because of their health. My own DD worked from age of 16-20 before she was struck down with a condition that has left her severely disabled. How the hell would you like her to hold down a job now? She would love to get back to work. I personally think it won't be possible for her, but keep encouraging her so that she's got the right attitude to keep fighting and keep up with her physio.

As for sitting on the net for an hour or 2 each day, do you really think that's the same as working? I used to type 60wpm, now with one hand it's a lot slower than that, every office job will have targets to be met, that I couldn't meet, I doubt many people with illnesses like we're describing could meet these targets.

Please don't count genuinely sick people with scroungers. I'm pretty sure most of us would love to get back to work, I know me and my dd would definitely love it.

Good luck with your appeal Elle.

Anny_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

If someone gets all self righteous and says "I don't get DLA" when the only reason they don't is because it's been refused, don't you find that ironic?

No, I don't find that ironic, the poster was telling the truth 'she does not get DLA'. What I personally find ironic is that Sunnyone actually does get DLA yet is among the first to berate others for getting it or claiming for it, along of course with some others who also claim related disability benefits.

That is the main problem on this forum some people believe they have the monopoly on being disabled and only they are 'entitled' to disability benefits...sad!

I also find it rather ironic that supposedly, according to themselves, educated posters would thank Sunnyone for a post that is at best very immature - using emoticons inappropriately - and at worst is downright spiteful and nasty.

Other posters suggesting Ellejmorgan was 'caught out' or is only attempting to claim DLA because 'its greed though isn't it' are, in my opinion, in the first instance - immature - and in the second, disgustingly insulting, because if a person is claiming DLA for the reason of being disabled, and why else would they be claiming? and if they have evidence of that disability that is required by the DWP - then where does greed come into it?

Vincent_Buenisedes

Dunroamin wrote: »

I would assume that this is a wind up but it's interesting that two other people agree with you.

It's no wind up. I'd give my right nut to be 20 again with my own flat, unemployed or not.

Dunroamin

Anny wrote: »

No, I don't find that ironic, the poster was telling the truth 'she does not get DLA'. What I personally find ironic is that Sunnyone actually does get DLA yet is among the first to berate others for getting it or claiming for it, along of course with some others who also claim related disability benefits.

That is the main problem on this forum some people believe they have the monopoly on being disabled and only they are 'entitled' to disability benefits...sad!

I also find it rather ironic that supposedly, according to themselves, educated posters would thank Sunnyone for a post that is at best very immature - using emoticons inappropriately - and at worst is downright spiteful and nasty.

Other posters suggesting Ellejmorgan was 'caught out' or is only attempting to claim DLA because 'its greed though isn't it' are, in my opinion, in the first instance - immature - and in the second, disgustingly insulting, because if a person is claiming DLA for the reason of being disabled, and why else would they be claiming? and if they have evidence of that disability that is required by the DWP - then where does greed come into it?

Some people (not me) who post on here are genuinely severely disabled and deserve every penny they get. Others manage to live totally normal lives (including bearing and raising children, having challenging holidays and doing many things that would daunt those who are well) but just somehow don't seem to be able to work even for a few hours a week.

Is it any wonder that many people in the first group have little respect for those in the second?