Nice people thread part 7 - a thread in its prime

zagubov

LIR I'm sorry to hear that.

SingleSue

So desperately sad for you LIR, I know how special she was to you.

chewmylegoff

vivatifosi wrote: »

B*gger... this is not good news.

I don't have a pressure cooker and I'm guessing that my sponges would disintegrate anyway.

So this raises the question - what is the best cleaning routine then? Or should I only use paper plates and disposable cutlery?

just put absolutely everything in the dishwasher and always run it on the hottest setting. not only will it kill pretty much anything that isn't a spore but you don't have to do the washing up by hand...

if you haven't got a dishwasher then revert to disposable plates.

SingleSue

Just trying to catch up on the thread...

Nice to see you again FC, you are certainly missed when you are not here.

James also has problems keeping weight on, he has a low BMI despite eating in the region of 10k calories a day, any less and he loses weight...we've not quite been able to suss out how to get him to put weight on however (he has tried the drink copious amounts of booze but it has not had the desired effect on his weight )

Busy, busy here just recently, James is appearing in a Midsummer nights dream this week, so it has been lots of rehearsals....and as a result, lots of me driving around dropping him off and picking him up. My parents are going to see him in the play on Wednesday, me, youngest and my ex mother in law are seeing him on Thursday.

There has also been extra driving involved for middle son as he has had revision classes and some 1 to 1 tutoring in English as an extra after school (he struggles with fiction due to his Aspergers, so the school are trying to overcome that)

Youngest is in major stress out mode with mock exams starting in a week, fingers crossed it won't be like his SATS where he sat rocking under the desk or hiding in a cupboard for the entire exam.

silvercar

chewmylegoff wrote: »

just put absolutely everything in the dishwasher and always run it on the hottest setting. not only will it kill pretty much anything that isn't a spore but you don't have to do the washing up by hand...

My method.

Now someone said to me I shouldn't wash dishcloths or tea towels in a wash with clothes because the germs will spread? Is that true?

zagubov

chewmylegoff wrote: »

just put absolutely everything in the dishwasher and always run it on the hottest setting. not only will it kill pretty much anything that isn't a spore but you don't have to do the washing up by hand...

if you haven't got a dishwasher then revert to disposable plates.

That's exactly what to do!:beer:
It'll kill everything pretty efficiently and spores rarely bother us (unless we leave dirty plates hanging around and then don't clean it in piping hot water). Viruses from food rarely bother us and they're not usually heat resistant anyway (unless it's the mad cow prion).

There's a factoid buzzing around that says there's more germs on a chopping board than on a toilet seat. Well, so's yoghurt too but the bacteria areno threat to you unlike the horrors that would contaminate a toilet.:eek:

chewmylegoff

silvercar wrote: »

My method.

Now someone said to me I shouldn't wash dishcloths or tea towels in a wash with clothes because the germs will spread? Is that true?

i expect it depends how hot you run the washing machine and whether you tumble dry afterwards. i suppose that running the washing machine on 30 degrees or below would pretty much infect everything you put in the washing machine with a bacteria ridden tea towel as i doubt normal washing detergent would do anything. that said washing separately wouldn't really do much as the machine would still be full of bacteria after you took the tea towels out (the only thing a washer-drier is good for is disinfecting itself...).

i just chuck everything in together though. i suppose you could wash the tea towels separately on 90 degrees with a load of bleach, but i cannot be bothered.

dish cloths get chucked in the bin after about three uses round my way...

vivatifosi

Well that's food for thought. I have a dishwasher that I never use, as I only have a couple of plates so it's just easier to do by hand. Massive rethink time.

Until now I've been quite happy rinsing my sink out and rinsing then microwaving my dish sponges and then chucking away after a couple of weeks.

I'm not ill very often mind. Perhaps being a vegetarian and not having raw meat around also helps.

Nikkster

vivatifosi wrote: »

Well that's food for thought. I have a dishwasher that I never use, as I only have a couple of plates so it's just easier to do by hand. Massive rethink time.

Until now I've been quite happy rinsing my sink out and rinsing then microwaving my dish sponges and then chucking away after a couple of weeks.

I'm not ill very often mind. Perhaps being a vegetarian and not having raw meat around also helps.

Whilst all that has been said is true, if you're not experiencing any specific problems, I wouldn't change anything. General good hygiene should be fine. We area covered with bacteria, inside and out, and for the most part this is beneficial. I wouldn't leave my washing up sponge festering in the sink - better that it dries out, and would wash the tea towel regularly etc. but even disposable things will not be sterile...

chewmylegoff

vivatifosi wrote: »

Well that's food for thought. I have a dishwasher that I never use, as I only have a couple of plates so it's just easier to do by hand. Massive rethink time.

Until now I've been quite happy rinsing my sink out and rinsing then microwaving my dish sponges and then chucking away after a couple of weeks.

I'm not ill very often mind. Perhaps being a vegetarian and not having raw meat around also helps.

in all honesty it's probably not worth worrying too much about, especially if you're not regularly smearing raw chicken around your kitchen. if you found yourself getting food poisoning regularly then it might be worth changing what you're doing.

we did an experiment at university where we took samples from our own kitchen sinks and grew what was in them. the results were horrific, but we were students at the time...