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Nice people thread part 7 - a thread in its prime

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  • GDB2222
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    When I was in the civil service someone didn't turn up for a year and still got paid despite being completely AWOL!


    DW works for a charity, on a temporary basis, covering for someone who is currently away sick. The job was advertised in January-12, DW started in March-12, and she has recently been 'extended' to March-13. They didn't start advertising the job until the previous incumbent was away for a couple of months, and she keeps being signed off work by her doctor for a couple more months at a time.

    The charity is a contractor for local authorities, providing services to survivors of a particular form of illness, and when this lady goes sick for long periods (as she has done repeatedly in the past), her colleagues have to drop what they are doing and scramble to cover for her. It's crazy!
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,469 Forumite
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    I got 17. Looks like I am an autocratic tyrant.


    Narcissistic Trait Strength of Trait
    Authority: 6.00
    Self-Sufficiency: 3.00
    Superiority: 3.00
    Exhibitionism: 2.00
    Exploitativeness: 2.00
    Vanity: 0.00
    Entitlement: 1.00
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,469 Forumite
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    DW works for a charity, on a temporary basis, covering for someone who is currently away sick. The job was advertised in January-12, DW started in March-12, and she has recently been 'extended' to March-13. They didn't start advertising the job until the previous incumbent was away for a couple of months, and she keeps being signed off work by her doctor for a couple more months at a time.

    The charity is a contractor for local authorities, providing services to survivors of a particular form of illness, and when this lady goes sick for long periods (as she has done repeatedly in the past), her colleagues have to drop what they are doing and scramble to cover for her. It's crazy!

    It is crazy. But what I was talking about is a person literally being AWOL. No explanation, no contact. Just vanished. Got paid for a year before they finally terminated her contract!!
  • lostinrates
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    silvercar wrote: »
    You lot were chatty last night. I was watching the channel 4 mash-up, very funny particularly 8 out of 10 cats doing deal or no deal.



    It is more, that if I had to I would, but I don't have to so I won't. There is also a bit of me that thinks that if you keep doing everything yourself and learn the necessary skills then those that have chosen to do these jobs as careers won't have an opportunity to earn their living. So someone who has chosen to earn a decent living doing something that others may feel is hard work/ yucky/ scary should not have to feel that everyone else think they can do that themselves and deprive him of that opportunity.

    I think your final point we agree on. Absolutely. But, fopr instance, there are people who I have been shocked at the ordure people I know have expected others to sort out because they are ' not cleaners' for example. And I mean their own filth or that of those close to them.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    H ours of sleep. Studies suggest (I understand, i think courtesy of horizopn) that between seven and eight hours is the healthiest. All sorts of health reasons and longevity.

    Mother goose On hours of sleep said.

    Nature takes five
    Habit takes seven
    Laziness takes nine
    Wickedness eleven


    For me I know it's not just hours of sleep it's when they are. Every hour before midnight counts twice as much in its value to me. Observing diurnal rhythem is really importnant to me now, when I can.

    I used to not sleep, when well, one night a week as my schedule did not fit it in at all. I had more than one job, a busy social life, stuff I wanted to do...no tiome to sleep and was an insomniac anyway.

    When I am I'll I want to sleep ALL the time, like this summer when I managed four to seven waking hours a day.



    Although I would not call myself an insomniac now, I do know, (and if I didn't would have been remind over christmas) that it's the time you get up that needs to be rigid to keep things on an even keel.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    Towels...about three days. (two a week). Sometimes more BUT, often shower or bathe twice a day so....
  • michaels
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    LIR, DW likes to get up early 5AM) and get things done - I suspect from her upbringing in a climate where that was the only time of day suitable for physical tasks, I was wondering if your preference for getting things done early might be as the result of similar conditioning.

    I'm the opposite, love to sleep, especially in the AM whereas by the end of the day and in the evening I feel at my most alert and productive.

    With the kids I find it is not how many hours you get but whether they are continuous - I don't have any trouble going back to sleep but 8 hours with 3 wakings is still much less effective than 7 hours continuous and it gets worse over if it repeats for several nights.
    I think....
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    michaels wrote: »
    LIR, DW likes to get up early 5AM) and get things done - I suspect from her upbringing in a climate where that was the only time of day suitable for physical tasks, I was wondering if your preference for getting things done early might be as the result of similar conditioning.

    I'm the opposite, love to sleep, especially in the AM whereas by the end of the day and in the evening I feel at my most alert and productive.

    With the kids I find it is not how many hours you get but whether they are continuous - I don't have any trouble going back to sleep but 8 hours with 3 wakings is still much less effective than 7 hours continuous and it gets worse over if it repeats for several nights.


    I think a lot of it would have been the same reasoning as your very lovely dw. But also.....it's my time, no one calls or drops on, it's easiest to get on with the happave, smelly unattractive stuff when you know you will be insisturbed.

    Evenings for me, are best as social, relaxed times, when you cannot do much physical. I have ofcourse done paperwork into the night, and in fact had more than one night job or job with night time element. But mornings were still 'mornings '


    I love to sleep too, but I am not keen on lying there and tryi g to sleep. When I cannot sleep now I tell myself just to relax and rest my obeys and that fighting wakeful ness is more exhaustin than just lying there. Eventually I can usually reverse psycholgise :D myself into sleep. I rarely wake once I get to sleep, it's getting there I can find hard. But i get woken up by things if not kids, and yeah it sucks. I think every one loves long languid days with lovers napping in bed, or reading or just sleeping. But. For 'recovering insomniac s' these can lead to days if not weeks of sleep disruption.

    Diurnal rhythm has I think shown benefits when observed by sleepers, but they might not be as great as the psychological ones for people who fel themselves to be morning sleepers. Dh wa a morning sleeper. His fitness ans stamina ( and looks, thinks like skin) improved dramatically when this was no longer possible. He still loves to lie in though.:D. To be truely observant of course, I should be waking at about seven / half past now.....and being able to do less after fourpm. Would be lovely!
    I also think I read that you can't 'cath up' on sleep. Though a good deep and long sleep seems desirable when over tired. I try to take mine so I fall asleep e's
    Ire in the night, not wake later, so that I get no ongoing sleep disruption and all the normal benefits.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    Evening nice peeps. I am such a fwit... Have managed to leave my laptop at a friends. Wont catch up again for a couple of weeks.so having to surf on phone. Plese excuse spelling and grammar. May need to buy tablet before i go mD.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • Nikkster
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Evening nice peeps. I am such a fwit... Have managed to leave my laptop at a friends. Wont catch up again for a couple of weeks.so having to surf on phone. Plese excuse spelling and grammar. May need to buy tablet before i go mD.

    It's much more difficult posting via a phone isn't it? I also find it challenging to thank rather than mark everything as spam.
    Quoting only part of a post is nigh on impossible.
    It took me about 5 minutes to post that...
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