Do I have to do this????

loobylou2

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

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OP you are making a mountain out of a molehill.

Your partner has a fine to pay and the court has asked for household income - pretty standard - in order to determine a payment plan.

No-one has said you are responsible for the actual offence - calm down a bit. Why the OTT responses?

If you feel that strongly, take it up with the court.

As to the fine, the fixed penalty amounts only apply if the offence is admitted and it is paid before court. if the driver decides to take the allegation to court to dispute it or put in mitigation then the fine is determined by the court at the conclusion of the case.

Sorry but I don't know anybody who would be too happy if their OH got a parking fine, didn't tell them about it for god knows how long and then expected them to sort out the mess they'd got into? Would you be happy is something like this happened to you? Theres a reason why I'm so upset and so if I appear to be going OTT I apologise but its not nice feeling. I've spent the last 16 years bailing this man out of trouble and solving his problems for him and I'm getting really fed up of it.

NoreenOMS

What exactly is detailed on the form as the offence? Is it multiple offences? As your first post said speeding, then a red light, and now a parking fine?

loobylou2

It looks like there are 2 offences, both for speeding although one is for going through a red light at speed, one of the offences was in september last year and the other february this year and OH somehow neglected to tell me about any of this at the time when they happened !!!!

Nicki

loobylou2 wrote: »

It looks like there are 2 offences, both for speeding although one is for going through a red light at speed, one of the offences was in september last year and the other february this year and OH somehow neglected to tell me about any of this at the time when they happened !!!!

Completely off topic, but is it possible that he should be thinking about giving up driving but not want to admit it? You say he is quite a bit older than you and retired. Is his sight still good and are his reactions and judgment up to scratch? If he was formerly a good driver, two offences in 4 months, one sounding very dangerous, might be a red warning sign that he is no longer safe on the roads.

loobylou2

Completely off topic, but is it possible that he should be thinking about giving up driving but not want to admit it? You say he is quite a bit older than you and retired. Is his sight still good and are his reactions and judgment up to scratch? If he was formerly a good driver, two offences in 4 months, one sounding very dangerous, might be a red warning sign that he is no longer safe on the roads.



I've thought this myself and have said to him on several occasions now that given the state of his health and for his safety and that of others he ought to stop driving but he is a very difficult man at times and won't listen to me. I've even pointed out to him cases in the media etc where older drivers have been found to have caused accidents etc but he just says that he's been driving for years and wouldn't drive if he felt it was unsafe to do so. I'm not happy about him driving but I can't physically stop him from doing so although I have convieniently mislaid the car keys a couple of times when he's wanted to drive and I have been worried about him doing so. I can't stop him from doing it though. Its his car and he's an adult, I don't drive and so am not really qualified to assess who is fit to drive and who isn't. It does worry me ( a lot!!!) to be honest though.

cte1111

When he ends up with however many points on his license and no money because of the fine, then he might well find it impossible to get / afford car insurance anyhow.

I can understand your initial indignation about having to supply your income details, however I guess it's just like couples claiming JSA or any benefit, if you live together as a couple then you are expected to support each other financially. Can understand why you might not want to, but the only way to avoid that is to split up.

My ex was terrible with money and quite capable of burying his head in the sand like this. It was one of the reasons I split up with him unfortunately. It's difficult as it seems terribly hard headed to chuck someone because they've got no money but it's more about respect and taking responsibility for your own actions.

I got a speeding letter last week, was a bit shocked but filled it in and fingers crossed I'll be given the option of a driver awareness course. Glad I did it straightaway now as can see what a mess you can get in if you try and pretend something like this didn't happen.

Errata

loobylou2 wrote: »

I've thought this myself and have said to him on several occasions now that given the state of his health and for his safety and that of others he ought to stop driving but he is a very difficult man at times and won't listen to me. I've even pointed out to him cases in the media etc where older drivers have been found to have caused accidents etc but he just says that he's been driving for years and wouldn't drive if he felt it was unsafe to do so. I'm not happy about him driving but I can't physically stop him from doing so although I have convieniently mislaid the car keys a couple of times when he's wanted to drive and I have been worried about him doing so. I can't stop him from doing it though. Its his car and he's an adult, I don't drive and so am not really qualified to assess who is fit to drive and who isn't. It does worry me ( a lot!!!) to be honest though.

It'll be ski-ing in the Sahara before anyone admits they're a rubbish driver. Ignore him.
If you're truly worried about his driving, throw his car keys away.

loobylou2

Errata wrote: »

It'll be ski-ing in the Sahara before anyone admits they're a rubbish driver. Ignore him.
If you're truly worried about his driving, throw his car keys away.

Thats a good idea but he would probably just go out and get another set of keys cut and be back behind the wheel again in no time at all, he's forever losing his car keys, glasses etc and when he's lost them he just moans about the cost and replaces them. I think it will take someone with a bit of authority standing up to him and saying that he can no longer drive to make him stop driving. He's had medical treatment for cataracts and I was hoping that the hospital would tell him he'd got to stop but they don't appear to have done so and as I've already said my opinion counts for nothing as I don't drive . Its just a vague thought but isn't there a law or something that says you have to retake your test once you reach a certain age?

daska

He may need to tell the DVLA about the Cataracts

Otherwise, no, unfortunately there is no requirement to retake his test unless he's caught driving so badly that a Court gets an opportunity to force him to. He can choose to though.

loobylou2

daska wrote: »

He may need to tell the DVLA about the Cataracts

Otherwise, no, unfortunately there is no requirement to retake his test unless he's caught driving so badly that a Court gets an opportunity to force him to. He can choose to though.

Thank you for this Daska, I will download and print a copy of the form and tell him that he NEEDS to complete it because from what I can see by reading it he does, I can't force him to do it but he's going to be completing forms anyway for the court so I can slip it into the pile of paperwork for him and tell him to complete it as well!!!!