My costings for installing stove....

PaulF81

agree with the above. register plate plus existing satisfactory flue is def. way forward.

suisidevw

Existing gas flue? Don't think that will work!

Been quoted £250 for fitment of liner, connecting up and signing off by hetas registered installer. I will lay the heart myself and provide everything minus fibreboard and cement, rope which he will supply.

Makes the £165 council sign off plus statutory flue smoke test rather pricey!!!!!

muckybutt

Man_Overboard wrote: »

My advice for a BODGED DIY job would be to place the stove under the brick-built flue with a short length of stove-pipe leading into the chimney, and see how it works. Load of *ollock*

If you feel the need to reduce the escape of heat into the chimney, then bodge up a loosely-fixed register plate around the top end of the stove-pipe - it will double as an easily removeable/cleanable receptacle for the dust/soot/debris which will inevitably settle.

If you find, after a period of time, that the installation is not working to your satisfaction, then that would be the time to consider all the other items in your shopping list.

Red highlights say it all, a complete bodge....great :T

Never just fit a stove into an open chimney, it wont draw properly for one thing, and will smoke like hell for another. Been there done that so know thats what you will end up with. Oh how time and experience you learn a lot.

As covered in another thread register plates should be firmly fixed in place and preferably sealed, if no liner then you need to make provision for sweeping either in the register plate of with a soot box in the chimney breast.

Why oh why do folks post such garbage when they have no experience in what they are talking about i'll never know :mad:

suisidevw wrote: »

Been quoted £250 for fitment of liner, connecting up and signing off by hetas registered installer. I will lay the heart myself and provide everything minus fibreboard and cement, rope which he will supply.

Makes the £165 council sign off plus statutory flue smoke test rather pricey!!!!!

Thats a decent price :T

savemoney

Wont they need air vent too. I had to have one installed years ago along with liner/registration plate

PaulF81

muckybutt wrote: »

Red highlights say it all, a complete bodge....great :T

Never just fit a stove into an open chimney, it wont draw properly for one thing, and will smoke like hell for another. Been there done that so know thats what you will end up with. Oh how time and experience you learn a lot.

As covered in another thread register plates should be firmly fixed in place and preferably sealed, if no liner then you need to make provision for sweeping either in the register plate of with a soot box in the chimney breast.

Why oh why do folks post such garbage when they have no experience in what they are talking about i'll never know :mad:




Thats a decent price :T

We run ours without a flue for years, no problems whatsoever. You can get register plates with sweeping holes. Can you please explain how the draw will be less if the hole at the bottom and the hole at the top are the same size and the chimney has no leaks?

PaulF81

savemoney wrote: »

Wont they need air vent too. I had to have one installed years ago along with liner/registration plate

Our living room is draughty enough from outside already. We decided to not install an air vent as it kind of negated the point of. Installing a heating source.

If you are in a newer well sealed property, an air vent will be essential.

w50nky

The regs state you don't need a vent fitted if your stoves output is less than 5Kw.

Although as stated above if your property is "hermetically sealed" then it may be advantageous anyway, if opening a window in the room with the appliance in improves the draw.

muckybutt

PaulF81 wrote: »

We run ours without a flue for years, no problems whatsoever. You can get register plates with sweeping holes. Can you please explain how the draw will be less if the hole at the bottom and the hole at the top are the same size and the chimney has no leaks?

You can run a stove in a chimney with or without a flue, that isnt the issue, the issue is saying you dont need a register plate, when for a correct burn you DO NEED a register plate.

As you state you can get register plates that have access for sweeping - plently of my customers have them as well.

Man_Overboard_2

muckybutt wrote: »

You can run a stove in a chimney with or without a flue, that isnt the issue, the issue is saying you dont need a register plate, when for a correct burn you DO NEED a register plate

A sealed register plate simply converts an open flue into a closed flue. Open fires have worked for ever under an open flue, and there is no reason why a stove should not work just as well (a stove is just an open fire with a door on the front).

Given a register plate, it is possible that there may be a marginal improvement in 'efficiency', but any kind of solid fuel appliance is so inefficient compared to almost any other kind of heating imaginable, that the difference is hardly worth worrying about.

IMHO, the register plate was invented by the designers of such stoves as the aga/raeburn, as part of a cunning plot to convince the housewife that burning solid fuel is a clean and convenient way to heat her house and do her cooking!

savemoney

I live in a 1920's semi solid walls. When we had our stove installed the fitter said we needed air vent but that said our stove is up to 8Kwh. We also have in another room a coal fire not used. When sweep came this year he checked for vents first time he has done this and also gave up a certificate to say chimney got swept

PaulF81 wrote: »

Our living room is draughty enough from outside already. We decided to not install an air vent as it kind of negated the point of. Installing a heating source.

If you are in a newer well sealed property, an air vent will be essential.