My costings for installing stove....

suisidevw

Afternoon all,

Can you tell me if the below sounds reasonable or am I 'short' in any areas? Just costing up fitting stove myself V installer. The second is a price paid by a friend to fit his in the local area. Any questions, just ask.


Total cost:
chimeny sweep: £45
Liner based on 8m going with the 316 (from fluesupplies.com): £160
Liner kit: included as a 'freebie' with the above liner: £0
Stove pipe: £30
Flagstones for hearth: c£60
Plastering/rendering: £100
Stove: £600 (Charnwood)
Miscellanious, sand/cement etc: £30
Building regs: £125
Hiring of roof ladders: £30
Register plate: £35
Total: £1215.....

Even if you go with the expensive 904 liner with 25yr guarantee, it'll be £1308.....

Friends stove installation (will:

Stove: £600
Liner: £689
Fitting: £420
Total: £1709

alleycat`

Off the top of my head.

Swear jar,
Plasters (the liner is savage)
Tea & Coffee facilities
A mate who is fairly burly.
Some fire cement.
Insulation for the liner?
Chimney Cowl?

suisidevw

ahhh, carbon monoxide alarm - circa £20....

Cowl included in a lining kit I think..... fire cement: £20.

Insulation, some people recommend, some don't, but even if we factor in, I guess 5 bags of Micafill - £75

aelitaman

I have had a stove fitted in the last month.

For the liner you can now get 406 inner and 316 outer which is only a couple of quid more per meter than 316/316.

The free stove pipe you get with the liner is cheap and nasty buy a quality one (there is a difference).

I was charged 300 quid for the Hetas chaps to get the liner down the chimmey and fix to cowl, (it was a tough job) It is a two man job.

Then 200 quid to install the stove, connect flue pipe, connect flue pipe to liner, build registar plate (non standard size) put hole in, paint with fire paint and install), connect liner to flue pipe, install CO2 alarm and install hetas plate in util room and do the hetas doc for me.

aelitaman

Also you do not need to buy the liner from the installer in your second costing. You buy the liner and as long as it conforms to the British standard the Hetas chap can fit it.

suisidevw

Will certainly buy a different stove pipe, thanks! So you were charged circa £500 for the full installation and you provided everything? Any good links of places to get stuff?

I got the above prices from: http://fluesupplies.co.uk/

suisidevw

Could I get the pipework secure on roof, and down the stack etc and get a HETAS guy to connect and sign off? Presumerably not, as they wouldn't want to put their name to someones elses work?

muckybutt

Very unlikely to get a HETAS fitter to sign off work they havent done - council will do though if you ask / pay them.

As for the liner 904 grade all the way! I have had a few 316 liners fail after a few years.

With a Charnwood you wont need the flue pipe with sweeping access as they can be swept from the inside unless its a boiler model in which case get one with a sweep access.

suisidevw

Thanks Mucky, yes, heard good things about the 904, and I';m guessing if it comes with a 25yr guarantee as per the above link, surely that's a good thing?

Mucky, I see what you mean, so yhou just go up the top of the stove. if there's a kink of some degrees straight away presumerably that's not an issue, or does the pipe have to go straight up from the stove for a certain length?

Thanks!

muckybutt

You can go straight up from the top of the stove or do a 45 or two to make an off set, ideally though you want as few bends as possible, as for length - standard would be 1000mm that allows the extra to go above the register plate and makes it easier to connect the liner to.
Some use the smaller 500mm sections - mine for example has a 500mm with access connected onto another 500mm that goes above the register plate and connects onto the liner.

aelitaman

suisidevw wrote: »

Will certainly buy a different stove pipe, thanks! So you were charged circa £500 for the full installation and you provided everything? Any good links of places to get stuff?

I got the above prices from: http://fluesupplies.co.uk/

Correct I was upfront with him, I said these are the prices I can buy at if you can match them then you can supply. He said I could buy them cheaper than him and so he just charged labour. I Let the installer supply fire paint for touching up and fire cement as they have it and it was in the price. He also supllied the register plate, which he cut to size in that price as well.

I got mine from flue factory which is a front for mi-flues who are the manufacturer in Warrington so Brit made (which is good) when I told the installer it was a mi-flues liner he said "good".

Just to reiterate I got 904/316 liner.

Just to reinterate I would not try and install the liner yourself. Mine was a pig to get down eventhough the test bit went up down like a yoyo.

Also my installer was not vat registered so no vat to pay.