A hospital Chief Exec. who believes the disabled a cheats.

ManxRed

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

I wonder how he gets to work each day? I bet he doesn't take the bus.

And catch germs off the riff-raff? I think you may be right.

taffy056

peteb74 wrote: »

its all very well to say that parking is free at hospitals in Wales but eventually the money for that has to come from somewhere

Tell me how much does it truly cost to park? The point is that the car parks are built because they must be built to facilitate patients and visitors coming to the hospital, once they are built the cost of parking is very negligible as there is very little running costs in reality. Hospitals are funded through the tax payer, and the car parks that are built are also funded.

AltheHibby

taffy,

it's free up here in Scotland as well.

denchys

pickpocketlocket wrote: »

No, he did not say "the disabled a cheats", he said there is "widescale abuse of disabled parking badges". There is a big difference between the two statements!

I don't understand why people expect hospital parking to be free. Would you really rather see budgets allocated to car parks than treatment?

I don't expect the disabled hospital users, like my wife, to have free car parking. I am simply annoyed that he justifies the charge because some users misuse blue badges. My wife CANNOT use public transport.

pickpocketlocket

taffy056 wrote: »

You are just using the same logic as this person in the NHS trust, you are not him by any chance? And I have just told you where the funding should come from, perhaps if you read my response fully you would see it!!

I used to be a Finance Manager in the NHS, so I have seen the figures that justify charging. Car parks do not run themselves! You have stated that the funding should come from taxes - are you going to pay more taxes to cover this?

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

I wonder how he gets to work each day? I bet he doesn't take the bus.

My ex Chief Exec used to cycle to work.

taffy056 wrote: »

Tell me how much does it truly cost to park? The point is that the car parks are built because they must be built to facilitate patients and visitors coming to the hospital, once they are built the cost of parking is very negligible as there is very little running costs in reality. Hospitals are funded through the tax payer, and the car parks that are built are also funded.

I cannot give current figures, but at my old Trust the cost was over £100,000 a year - hardly negligible.

pickpocketlocket

taffy056 wrote: »

Where does it say in the blue badge terms that it applies to private land? The answer it doesn't!

Where did I suggest that it does? However the NHS fall under the PSED, so they do have to consider the impact on BB users, and disabled people as a whole.

denchys wrote: »

I don't expect the disabled hospital users, like my wife, to have free car parking. I am simply annoyed that he justifies the charge because some users misuse blue badges. My wife CANNOT use public transport.

That makes more sense, and I believe the justification was poor. The true justification is that they do not have to make provision for free parking for any group.

halibut2209

So he wants to treat people equally and you're saying this is against the equality act? I don't get it. You park, you pay regardless of who you are. How much more equal can you get?

splishsplash

pickpocketlocket wrote: »

I used to be a Finance Manager in the NHS, so I have seen the figures that justify charging. Car parks do not run themselves! You have stated that the funding should come from taxes - are you going to pay more taxes to cover this?
In the olden days, car parks did exactly that. Car parks were build with the buildings, then they were left to run themselves. As is still the case with many carparks in shopping centres, cinemas etc.
My ex Chief Exec used to cycle to work.


I cannot give current figures, but at my old Trust the cost was over £100,000 a year - hardly negligible.

Do you mean they generated that much income from the car parks? That's scandalous, considering people don't usually attend hospital by choice.
I wonder how much of that went to the companies put in to manage the carparks, and how much was spent on repainting/resurfacing the carparks (the only justifiable expense to recoup, imho)?

ManxRed

halibut2209 wrote: »

So he wants to treat people equally and you're saying this is against the equality act? I don't get it. You park, you pay regardless of who you are. How much more equal can you get?

Read the article fully.

He's trying to persuade people to use public transport and is claiming its no more difficult for disabled people to use public transport than anyone else.

Forget the charges for a second.

Sheesh.

SodG24

pickpocketlocket wrote: »

What a fantastic idea - now please let us (and the NHS) know where this funding is going to come from? You're ok to go without vital healthcare services so you can have a parking space, yes? :rotfl:

From the £13b+ we pay to belong to the EU would be a very good starting point.