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  • The under 16s

    So what would be the case if two 15-year-olds were having sex? Again, going by the letter of the law, it is illegal for them to do so. But again, there is a grey area.

    "There's a major difference between two 15-year-olds heavy petting and an adult having sex with an underage girl or boy," said Ms Rodgers.

    The law in these kind of cases not widely enforced. Even if the police did for some reason get involved in a case, they may well decide not to proceed with it, and the CPS may stop the case on public interest grounds.

    But as it is a grey area, the individual circumstances of the case are going to be what is conclusive, and the law does some times get involved. In March of this year, an 11-year-old boy was placed on the sex offender's register for three years for sexually assaulting his two-year-old cousin.



    Let's clear this up:

    It is a grey area and I am truly shocked at the 'feminists' on here again.

    We know nothing about the person , nothing and so many of you 'shout' it's her decision??

    Was she mature enough to call her mum? There are only lads here?Come and pick me up?

    Was she drunk?

    Very mature of course...we dont even know how old the 'lad' was...

    Very few teenagers want to talk to their parents especially when they are going to be in trouble...are they all from Asian honour killers?


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  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    Not an opinion but fact. She has absolute right to privacy on medical matters and she is the one to decide if her mother should be told.

    Anyone when given information they believe is pertinent to safeguarding issues should always inform the child that they cannot necessarily keep it confidential.

    What if this was not consensual? What if the child had learning issues? Of course medical professionals are bound by confidentiality constraints but family members/friends are not.
  • shegirl
    shegirl Posts: 10,107 Forumite
    Nicki wrote: »
    I read the thread on my phone the first time and missed that bit!

    Yes, that is woeful parenting on the part of the boy's mother, if that's how it happened.

    Ah,I keep doing the same thing lol Missing bits on my phone,that is,not lying to other parents then !!!!!!ing off out on the lash!
    If women are birds and freedom is flight are trapped women Dodos?
  • Torry_Quine
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    poet123 wrote: »
    Anyone when given information they believe is pertinent to safeguarding issues should always inform the child that they cannot necessarily keep it confidential.

    What if this was not consensual? What if the child had learning issues? Of course medical professionals are bound by confidentiality constraints but family members/friends are not.

    I fully accept what you're saying. If no adult knew then the issue would be of more concern but her aunt knows and can speak to her about these issues and will know if she is learning disabled. It could destroy the mother/daughter relationship if she is forced to tell her mother if she is unwilling to tell her yet if at all.
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  • Errata
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    Of course underage girls are loathe to tell their parents they're pregnant. They know full well their parents won't be dancing around the house, bursting with joy, braking out the champagne to celebrate, telling all their friends and neighbours, making an announcement in the local paper, buying up Mothercare, planning trips to Build a Bear, etc etc etc.
    They know full well their parents will not be thrilled to bits.
    .................:)....I'm smiling because I have no idea what's going on ...:)
  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    I fully accept what you're saying. If no adult knew then the issue would be of more concern but her aunt knows and can speak to her about these issues and will know if she is learning disabled. It could destroy the mother/daughter relationship if she is forced to tell her mother if she is unwilling to tell her yet if at all.

    With respect, the mother daughter relationship could be just as easily destroyed by the mother being kept in the dark, to say nothing of the aunt's relationship with her sister. The child may just want an adult to take responsibility and sort it out rather than just saying you must do as you see fit.

    We have no way of knowing the dynamic between aunt and niece or mother daughter, or the maturity or otherwise of the child. So, imo it is entirely down to the aunt to gauge the situation and act accordingly.
  • shegirl
    shegirl Posts: 10,107 Forumite
    Errata wrote: »
    Of course underage girls are loathe to tell their parents they're pregnant. They know full well their parents won't be dancing around the house, bursting with joy, braking out the champagne to celebrate, telling all their friends and neighbours, making an announcement in the local paper, buying up Mothercare, planning trips to Build a Bear, etc etc etc.
    They know full well their parents will not be thrilled to bits.

    Very true.Not telling them doesn't mean anything untowards with the parents.It's terrifying telling your parents you're pregnant in your teens.My parents are awful but teen pregnancy runs in the family (before you surmise,the difference between me and them is I loved my partner,didn't sleep around,was with him for years and it wasn't intentional!!! Lol) so it wasn't their general selves that scared me,it was because it's such a big thing and you're scared of anyone judging,being disappointed AND your parents knowing you'd been sexually active!!!

    Hence why,when I was 3 months gone and after everyone else in the world knew,I left a note on the dining table on my way to school (16,caught on first day of 6th form -poops!) then hid at my friends house in embarrassment:rotfl:
    If women are birds and freedom is flight are trapped women Dodos?
  • Parents are in a difficult position. If they are aware of their underage children having sex they could theoretically risk prosecution for aiding and abetting the unlawful intercourse.

    It is not all plain sailing for that irresponsible mother either...what an awful situation for a young teenager to be involved with.

    My heart goes out to the 13 year but without knowing alot more, it is very difficult to advice.

    It is a potential Police situation or two young teenagers being 'foolish'...it cannot be deduced from a few posts on a discussion forum. I do hope the Aunt knows the law better than people on this thread.

    The 'lad' could also be in deep trouble...was a lot of alcohol involved? With no adult supervision?

    If nothing else, the parents are not given a message that those people are dangerous to their children....

    Depending on the circumstances, anything could be the right decision...

    Are we all so hang up about 'privacy' that we do no longer know what is 'just right ' to do?

    I would err on the aunt telling the 13 year....I am sorry but your parents need to know...I am there to support you but they do need to know

    Mature enough?


    You people do make me laugh...do you know how you would react in that situation?

    ...at 13??

    How does she know if she needs support?? She is a young girl frightened to death most likely.....
    You have the right to remain silent.Anything you do say will be misquoted and then used against you ;)

    Knowledge will give you power, but character respect.

    Bruce Lee
  • shegirl
    shegirl Posts: 10,107 Forumite
    That's a bloomin good post VSG:T

    Parents are in a difficult position. If they are aware of their underage children having sex they could theoretically risk prosecution for aiding and abetting the unlawful intercourse.

    It is not all plain sailing for that irresponsible mother either...what an awful situation for a young teenager to be involved with.

    My heart goes out to the 13 year but without knowing alot more, it is very difficult to advice.

    It is a potential Police situation or two young teenagers being 'foolish'...it cannot be deduced from a few posts on a discussion forum. I do hope the Aunt knows the law better than people on this thread.

    The 'lad' could also be in deep trouble...was a lot of alcohol involved? With no adult supervision?

    If nothing else, the parents are not given a message that those people are dangerous to their children....

    Depending on the circumstances, anything could be the right decision...

    Are we all so hang up about 'privacy' that we do no longer know what is 'just right ' to do?

    I would err on the aunt telling the 13 year....I am sorry but your parents need to know...I am there to support you but they do need to know

    Mature enough?


    You people do make me laugh...do you know how you would react in that situation?

    ...at 13??

    How does she know if she needs support?? She is a young girl frightened to death most likely.....
    If women are birds and freedom is flight are trapped women Dodos?
  • Person_one
    Person_one Posts: 28,884 Forumite
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    poet123 wrote: »

    We have no way of knowing the dynamic between aunt and niece or mother daughter, or the maturity or otherwise of the child. So, imo it is entirely down to the aunt to gauge the situation and act accordingly.

    What's wrong with seeking the advice of neutral professionals who are well used to helping in these situations?

    Places like Brook and Marie Stopes are good at this, let them help!
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