benefit fraud?

SailorSam

All you can do is go and explain what the situation is and hope they believe you. But i'll bet they've been told that same story before.

rogerblack

Legally, you are not committing benefit fraud.
The problem is that some of the evidence points to the conclusion that you are.
Did you inform them in any way of him moving back in - council tax, ... or has it been done without official notice. (if so, at least you're committing fraud on the single person discount to council tax)

Where they are starting from is that he's living with you, you go out together to the shops, you (presumably) have children with him.
Everything (externally to the house) is as it would be if you were in a relationship.

Seperate finances will help somewhat.
Your only option is to insist that you are not 'living together as husband and wife'.

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/fraud-guide-living-together-investigations.pdf See 'Collusive seperation',
along with http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/dmgch11.pdf may be of use.

A sexual relationship is _NOT_ required for you to be living together - but an expectation of fidelity may be.

Do your friends know you've split up, and that he's moved back in, but you have not restarted a relationship?
Have you dated other people?
These are all questions that will be asked.

Kim.hill2010

mazza111 wrote: »

The problem is kim, even if you are not living as husband and wife. You are still getting benefits from the state to pay your rent. As your husband is living there, he's living off the people who pay your rent.

Even if, as you say, he's living there as a lodger, he should be paying his own way, rent etc. Instead at the moment i'm guessing that the taxpayer are paying it?

He can't live there rent free if he's working full time.

yeah see i understand this. Maybe i should of asked for rent, but atm i have been to ill to even get out of bed.
im just confused and stressing out x

jolfc

Kim.hill2010 wrote: »

no because were not a couple! its like having a lodger? they could willing come and look round the house and see, but obv not.

so if he is a lodger he should pay towards the rent, therefore you not needing to claim as much in hb.
i know when my friends son left school and got a job at 16 she lost some of her benifit as her sons income was included in her incomings. but that is a few years ago, things may have changed now.

Kim.hill2010

rogerblack wrote: »

Legally, you are not committing benefit fraud.
The problem is that some of the evidence points to the conclusion that you are.
Did you inform them in any way of him moving back in - council tax, ... or has it been done without official notice. (if so, at least you're committing fraud on the single person discount to council tax)

Where they are starting from is that he's living with you, you go out together to the shops, you (presumably) have children with him.
Everything (externally to the house) is as it would be if you were in a relationship.

Seperate finances will help somewhat.
Your only option is to insist that you are not 'living together as husband and wife'.

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/fraud-guide-living-together-investigations.pdf See 'Collusive seperation',
along with http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/dmgch11.pdf may be of use.

A sexual relationship is _NOT_ required for you to be living together - but an expectation of fidelity may be.

Do your friends know you've split up, and that he's moved back in, but you have not restarted a relationship?
Have you dated other people?
These are all questions that will be asked.

i have dated one other person, all friends/family aware.

the reason i toke him in aswell, hes from yorkshire and i am from midlands, his job is down here, so he had nowhere else to go. i wish i hadnt bothered now.

nannytone_2

even if you are sleeping in seperate rooms, by your own words, it does seem that you are doing things 'as a family'

he is paying some bills and you shop together. he minds the kids when he can.

you arent operating in a financially seperate way.
tou are getting single parent benefits whist he is in full time employment.

whose name is the sky/phone/broadband in?

just because youre not having an intimate relationship with him, doesnt negate the fact that you appear to be very much one household.

pickpocketlocket

Kim.hill2010 wrote: »

i have dated one other person, all friends/family aware.

the reason i toke him in aswell, hes from yorkshire and i am from midlands, his job is down here, so he had nowhere else to go. i wish i hadnt bothered now.

Which is it - he moved in because you could not cope (although he does nothing to help), or he moved in because he works nearby? If the latter, where was he living before?

SailorSam

Many couples split-up and continue to live in the same house these days 'cos of the difficulty in finding a new house, so just push that point Op.

Kim.hill2010

pickpocketlocket wrote: »

Which is it - he moved in because you could not cope (although he does nothing to help), or he moved in because he works nearby? If the latter, where was he living before?

both, more the fact of my illness.

he was sleeping on his mates sofa for 3months

tamiami

Many couples split-up and continue to live in the same house these days 'cos of the difficulty in finding a new house, so just push that point Op

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Yes but they should both contribute to the household surely. In this case you have a guy working full time and living free of the govt - where do all his wages go? Sky and broadband are only about £30 a month!!