Free "Delivery to neighbour opt out form"

Freebeez

What I don't understand is how this is going to be easier for postmen/women?

Okay so their bags will be a little lighter when walking back to the delivery office, but it's so much more hassle to go knocking on doors to find someone who's in.

They would need to first discover that the recipient isn't in, then find a neighbour who is in, then go back to the recipient's door to post a card telling them which house their parcel / signed for letter has been delivered to (writing the details on the card as they did so). Surely, it's just easier to stick it back in the bag and take it back to the delivery office?

Secondly, IMO it's not just about trustworthy neighbours. What happens if you have urgent letters or packages being sent via recorded delivery? Imagine you're away for a couple of days, your neighbour takes the letter/package but by the time you return the neighbour has gone on holiday for two weeks. So instead of getting hold of your delivery as soon as the delivery office opens, you have to wait for your neighbour to return.

Plus, at least when you pick up letters from the delivery office you have some form of evidence to show when a signed for letter / package was collected. Imagine if you were involved in a legal dispute, would people have to start dragging their neighbours to court to give witness evidence about when documents were received?

I think Royal Mail have tried to copy the practices of private delivery companies, but it doesn't really fit in with the way the postal service works because RM have to deliver to every street anyway. I think this could potentially increase the workload for postmen/women (having to go back and forth) and it therefore wouldn't surprise me if they continued to take undelivered mail back to the delivery office.

purple.sarah

sarks wrote: »

Can you opt out of receiving your neighbour's mail? I work nights and am pretty much always asleep when the postie does his rounds, I purposely don't order things to my address that can't be put through the letter box or need signed for and definitely wouldn't want to be woken up accepting other people's mail.

If you opt out for yourself it also opts you out of receiving your neighbour's mail.

custardy

Freebeez wrote: »

What I don't understand is how this is going to be easier for postmen/women?

Okay so their bags will be a little lighter when walking back to the delivery office, but it's so much more hassle to go knocking on doors to find someone who's in.

They would need to first discover that the recipient isn't in, then find a neighbour who is in, then go back to the recipient's door to post a card telling them which house their parcel / signed for letter has been delivered to (writing the details on the card as they did so). Surely, it's just easier to stick it back in the bag and take it back to the delivery office?

Secondly, IMO it's not just about trustworthy neighbours. What happens if you have urgent letters or packages being sent via recorded delivery? Imagine you're away for a couple of days, your neighbour takes the letter/package but by the time you return the neighbour has gone on holiday for two weeks. So instead of getting hold of your delivery as soon as the delivery office opens, you have to wait for your neighbour to return.

Plus, at least when you pick up letters from the delivery office you have some form of evidence to show when a signed for letter / package was collected. Imagine if you were involved in a legal dispute, would people have to start dragging their neighbours to court to give witness evidence about when documents were received?

I think Royal Mail have tried to copy the practices of private delivery companies, but it doesn't really fit in with the way the postal service works because RM have to deliver to every street anyway. I think this could potentially increase the workload for postmen/women (having to go back and forth) and it therefore wouldn't surprise me if they continued to take undelivered mail back to the delivery office.

yup. However RM want it in
My old office is a trial office
when it was brought in,questiuons were asked as to where the time was coming from.
knock door,wait
go to x,y,z neighbour
get rid or dont get rid of packet
go back to leave a card regardless of outcome

there was no answer. this from a company who designs duties to the second on software.
As i said it will fit some duties/posties, but not all

riskybrown

my goodness do the people at home have to collect that many parcels, my neighbours who dont work are fab.
Spare a thought for full timers we can only get to the sorting office on a saturday.
Gosh why put stickers on your doors - life is too short.
:mad:

custardy

riskybrown wrote: »

my goodness do the people at home have to collect that many parcels, my neighbours who dont work are fab.
Spare a thought for full timers we can only get to the sorting office on a saturday.
Gosh why put stickers on your doors - life is too short.
:mad:

always amuses me the people who 'work full time' and are off weekends
Does nobody working 'full time' work weekends?

KxMx

riskybrown wrote: »

my goodness do the people at home have to collect that many parcels, my neighbours who dont work are fab.
Spare a thought for full timers we can only get to the sorting office on a saturday.
Gosh why put stickers on your doors - life is too short.
:mad:

Once the postie figures out who is usually at home delivery time, they could knock on that persons door up to 6 days a week.

There is doing a favour for a neighbour and there is being taken advantage of. I don't wish my home to become a delivery office with knocks (potentially daily) with not only postie but neighbours after their parcels.

The main reason I have opted out is because I am that neighbour at home the majority of the time (long term illness) and don't wish for the disturbances. I am usually asleep when post is delivered too.

The local couriers already come to me for most of the street, which I am happy with because it does only happen occasionaly. I know the couriers work 6 days a week, but I would say generally people get more packets through RM than couriers. Or at least in this street the folk don't have much that is courier delivered!

CupofTea

I don't mind my neighbours with my parcels but it is a hassle for them to keep it when I'm out for a few days. Some companies leave it in the delivery box but royal mail don't. I'm okay with collecting it at the Post Office but it's not as convenient to get to as my old place.

Considering opting out so the neighbours don't have the hassle of storing it in their home for an unknown amount of days even though in a way it is easier for me. But then I have to wait to know when they're in which is difficult where I live.

Recently had about 4 parcels and they weren't small either. Discovered they were left with the neighbours even though I asked the delivery company not to (so as to not hassle the neighbours). If this will be default for royal mail then I will have to have the pleasant sticker on my door.

KxMx

The scheme is not due to start in my area for another month, but the postie left a packet with my neighbour today.
Luckily the postie also brought a letter with my opt-out sticker from RM!

gentleorange

riskybrown wrote: »

my goodness do the people at home have to collect that many parcels, my neighbours who dont work are fab.
Spare a thought for full timers we can only get to the sorting office on a saturday.
Gosh why put stickers on your doors - life is too short.
:mad:

I have neighbours who steal, AND they are chummy with the local postman so in the past he didn't bother putting the red card through someone's letterbox because he could 'trust his mates'. Shame no-one else could.

And putting a sticker on your door would take less time than it took you to type your comment so, sorry, the 'Life's too short:mad:' seems a wee bit silly.

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