Need help (Complicated)

A_D_B

Torry_Quine wrote: »

I wondered that.

Because household income affects the funding to go to college or university, the higher, the less financial support I receive, and more likely to have to pay for my course out of my own money.

As for the person who said its my choice to have to children, it was my choice to have one of them, then she left me and only Allows me to have him for 2 nights, which I would rather have him a lot more so don't judge thinking im a walk out father. The 2nd I didn't even know about until he was almost 1. Everyone's made mistakes and done things their not proud of. Aside from that, this is irrelevant, I want to know if there is any help I could get to educate myself to a higher standard.

I have no intention of going on JSA, it just annoys the hell out of me that they get everything paid for when they do nothing to earn it.
As for working 5 days a week, how am I suppose to do that and fit a college course in at the same time? I have my son 2 full days, and 2 halfs days of the week.

McKneff

Forget college, get a full time job, have the kids over the weekend.

Providing for them is the first priority. Providing means earning.

It's not about you now, it's all about the bairns. For a long time.

A_D_B

chris1973 wrote: »

so your expenses are greater than theirs, as are your priorities. £110 a month on a Mobile Phone is something a football player would pay, you can't afford it and that should have gone the minute you found out you were going to be a father.

Easier said than done to get rid of a 2 year contract, it's almost finished and once it is, itl be gone. And it's £40 a month, the other money is for travel and other things I need to pay out.

Same goes for getting a 'promotion' where I work doesn't operate like that, you need to do a work training rota comprising of 5-7 day weeks switching times every week (Supermarket)
I'm glad to hae a job but there's nothing wrong with wantin to get a degree to get a better career and provide a better life for my son

fishybusiness

As for working 5 days a week, how am I suppose to do that and fit a college course in at the same time? I have my son 2 full days, and 2 halfs days of the week.

I did the Access to HE course in 2003/2004. At the time I was a test engineer at BAe Systems. I couldn't fit in a college course, even using holiday days as it was then 2 1/2 days a week, and my employer had little sympathy for my needs.

I left my job, claimed JSA and housing benefit and got through the year of college. It was a hell of shock to my system coming from a well paid job to next to nothing.

Was it worth it? Well despite almost everyone saying I was nuts, irresponsible, using the system etc etc, for me it was. There was no other way to get back in to education. I met a group of people that had like me wanted to change their lives, had come out of relationships and wanted to try something different and I made some good friends. It gave me an insight in to a different world.

I think what I am saying is that you should follow your dreams, find a way to make them work, and do it for you. Even on this forum you have already found people judging you.

Get on the phone to your college, go talk to them, you may find fee reduction is possible, leaving you with some money to find. If you can get through a year of Access, your world will change.

DCFC79

A_D_B wrote: »

So, basically, my dad earns a lot so our household income is above £40k a year. I earn roughly £500-550 every 4 weeks, I have 2 children, care for 1 of them 2 nights a week.

Csa are taking £110 a month, I pay £150 board, and around £150 in other things such as phone(which i can get rid of very soon), bank stuff etc, nappies.. So £410 basically before I have any money to myself.Thats without clothes, or basically anything apart from the bare necessity's.

Im 21, and hoping to start an access course, but I fear Il have to pay £1200 for it, I can't afford this no way on what I have left over.

Things seem better for people who are on job seekers and its driving me crazy, I get no financial help from anyone at all. I can't afford to go out, I can't save for anything like a car, house deposit, theres no chance in hell I could afford to move out.

I feel stuck, I can't do anything with my life without money, I can't work more hours because of the times I have my child, also I'd even have to drop a shift or 2 at work to even attend this access course at college.

Is there no help for people like me? Or am I doomed to being skint and having no life.. And yes, I do try work as many hours as I can at work but its not that simple with the times I can work.

Any one got any advice or help they could give me what I should do? It would be much appreciated.

Just quoting if it disappears.

If your dada earns alot could he not pay for the access course for you ?

A_D_B

DCFC79 wrote: »

Just quoting if it disappears.

If your dada earns alot could he not pay for the access course for you ?

Nope he wouldn't pay it for me

~Chameleon~

Your father's income shouldn't be taken into account for FE purposes, only if/when you decide to go to university and apply for student finance loans/grants.

As someone else stated above, if you don't currently have any L2/L3 qualifications then the access course should be free or heavily subsidised. Have you spoken to the finance officer at college for advice? He/she will be your first port of call. Good luck, at least you're trying to improve your current situation

chris1973

Same goes for getting a 'promotion' where I work doesn't operate like that, you need to do a work training rota comprising of 5-7 day weeks switching times every week (Supermarket)

So are you saying that EVERY single employee of this company is still childless or doesn't have a family whom they also have to juggle this training and their time around?. Have a read of some other threads here, some parents have to hold down two jobs, and still barely make ends meet

I think what I am saying is that you should follow your dreams, find a way to make them work, and do it for you.

Nobody is saying that, all most people are saying is that your dreams shouldn't revolve around envying those on benefits!

fishybusiness

Forget college, get a full time job, have the kids over the weekend.

Providing for them is the first priority. Providing means earning.

It's not about you now, it's all about the bairns. For a long time.

Actually you can provide for your children, and work towards a better life i.e get educated whilst bringing up children. I should think you would be surprised how many people do.

If providing meant earning, I could just see Social Services visiting all those mature students with children!!

xylophone

care for 1 of them 2 nights a week

have my son 2 full days, and 2 halfs days of the week.

You might have to consider working full time and seeing your child (children?) when you can fit it in with your shifts.

I am puzzled by this 'household income' business - at 21, are you still considered your father's dependant?