no more psychic readings on ebay

buggritt

Doddsey wrote: »

He was on about commercial transactions. Now I might be mistaken, but when do you go into a church and the vicar charges you £4.95 for eternal life? At the end of the day, they are making a $$$$ load of money.

Try arranging a wedding or a funeral. There is a bill. How do you think the church is financed? You think god puts the money in the collection plate?
Of course, palmistry, tarot etc are all crap. But heaven is a fact.
There is absolutely no difference.

ashleypride

Crowqueen wrote: »

There are crooks in every business, from roofing to iPhone picture sellers to bent televangelists, though.

Singling out online psychics is unfair.

Psychics selling readings ripping people off is the only unfair thing here. (Along with the rest of the digital carp sold on ebay)

Doddsey

buggritt wrote: »

Try arranging a wedding or a funeral. There is a bill. How do you think the church is financed? You think god puts the money in the collection plate?
Of course, palmistry, tarot etc are all crap. But heaven is a fact.
There is absolutely no difference.

:rotfl:
There is a big difference between an email or phone call off someone, and a wedding or funeral in a church.

God works in mysterious ways.

I think you have the wrong person to show the religious card too, because I'm not really religious.

I don't know if heaven exists, but you don't have to pay money to get into heaven from what I've heard.

Most people just want advice and support, they can get that free from a church.

P.S you were right about the crap bit though.

P.P.S Can you do wedding and funerals over the phone? Dragons den here I come!

soolin

I don't think you can do weddings or funerals over the phone but I seem to recall seeing something about being able to confess by phone, which is a bit odd. However I am not aware of any payment being required to confess, either by phone or in person. I am not however a Roman Catholic so I might be mistaken

buggritt

Doddsey wrote: »

There is a big difference between an email or phone call off someone, and a wedding or funeral in a church.

You're right about that. A few hundred quid difference.
However, part of the cost is the vicar's time. He gets a salary.
So, no difference at all really.

RFW

I do believe that there are some genuine people out there offering psychic services, people who believe that what they do is a gift. Whether there is anything to it, I don't know, I know that some people believe in it and if they are willing to pay for it, then no harm done.

Claiming that religions do stuff for free is very much mistaken, religions generally generate large sums of money from nothing, no need to single any religion out, all the big ones do pretty well financially.

Doddsey

I know there is going to be people who agree with psychics and those who don't.

However, I think what psychics say to people can affect them, so I think an email or phone call is a way to just make money.

I know religions make lots of money from what they do. However, you can speak to them for free, they do like to go on about their religious text a bit though.

P.S Do you think I will get a curse put on me for upsetting the psychics?

RFW

Doddsey wrote: »

I know there is going to be people who agree with psychics and those who don't.

However, I think what psychics say to people can affect them, so I think an email or phone call is a way to just make money.

I know religions make lots of money from what they do. However, you can speak to them for free, they do like to go on about their religious text a bit though.

P.S Do you think I will get a curse put on me for upsetting the psychics?

I've not dealt with many psychics (or any that I know of!) but I have heard of ones that do it as a hobby and never get paid, I don't know of any affiliated religious leaders that don't get paid, they may have people go to them for advice and not ask for money but they are doing a job, much like the police or GPs who often give advice for free but still get paid for it.

As I said I don't particularly know much about those who believe they have a psychic gift, but there could well be genuine ones.

sharpy2010

KxMx wrote: »

It's a shame because I could really do with some guidance, or reasurance i'm not looking at another 6 years of hell with my health...

Well then a doctor is the person you go to for this advice, not some lunatic who thinks they can see into the future, or know what your health is like without ever having met you.

RHemmings

Doddsey wrote: »

I know there is going to be people who agree with psychics and those who don't.

However, I think what psychics say to people can affect them, so I think an email or phone call is a way to just make money.

I know religions make lots of money from what they do. However, you can speak to them for free, they do like to go on about their religious text a bit though.

P.S Do you think I will get a curse put on me for upsetting the psychics?

I agree with you, but what I personally believe goes even further.

Other professions have rogues and people who have false beliefs in their competency

However, with psychics, I believe that there are only people who are rogues/deliberate frauds and those who have a false belief in their competency.

Psychic powers are extremely easy to test, and when tested with robust methodology, are found not to exist. There are also cases where traps have been laid for psychics to see if they consciously cheat, and they've been found to cheat. E.g. a fake history put on a web page about a location, which was then "heard from the other side" by a psychic. The list goes on. Here's Derren Brown explaining how psychics trick people and create an illusion of psychic powers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idVxRE8uM-A

Other professions such as lawyers, roofers, bakers etc. will include both people who are truly competent at their profession and can do what they claim to do. But I don't believe that there are any psychics who can actually provide the services they claim to provide. Hence I believe it's reasonable to censure the entire "profession" of psychics, while it isn't reasonable to censure professions such as lawyers, roofers, bakers, etc.

There are other "professions" equally as bad (or worse) than psychics, e.g. faith healers and spell casters. But just because they are in my opinion just as bad doesn't mean that we shouldn't criticise psychics.

Returning to the topic, I can understand if people are upset that their livelihood is threatened. But I still believe that ebay's actions are the correct one as the products being sold are bogus.