5:2 diet

Mojisola

daska wrote: »

I don't follow a hard and fast rule that I mustn't eat, only that I must listen to my body and unless it's a social meal I won't eat unless I'm hungry.

If you combine that with eating food in its natural state as much as possible, you've got it sorted. What better advice could we have?

daska

lostinrates wrote: »

Wow, thank you.

( you must only read me on my better days! My neurological condition creates an interesting relationship with language you see)

Yes, I had noticed that more recently, but your ideas are usually clear and well presented. (I don't worry so much about spelling or odd capitalisation as my posts often start out as incomprehensible in that regard, ME plays havoc with my posts.)

Prudent

I am on my second fast day today. I want to do it at the weekend as it is my first week back at work after the holidays and work will be manic.

Is anyone combining this with a vegetarian diet? I am not actually vegetarian, but both OH and dd are so it is easier for me to eat a mainly vegetarian diet. I really like fish though so I do eat a fair bit of fish when they are not here. I am engaged and we are slowly renovating OH's house for sale. It is getting to the satge of renovations that he will need to move in with me. It would be easier to be totally vegetarian when he is here.

Mojisola

daska wrote: »

Yes, I had noticed that more recently, but your ideas are usually clear and well presented. (I don't worry so much about spelling or odd capitalisation as my posts often start out as incomprehensible in that regard, ME plays havoc with my posts.)

Doesn't it just? My brain can be thinking one word and my fingers type something else! I carefully check my posts before submitting them and then look at them later and see wrong words or spelling/grammar mistakes that I completely missed. So frustrating!

daska

Prudent wrote: »

I am on my second fast day today. I want to do it at the weekend as it is my first week back at work after the holidays and work will be manic.

Is anyone combining this with a vegetarian diet? I am not actually vegetarian, but both OH and dd are so it is easier for me to eat a mainly vegetarian diet. I really like fish though so I do eat a fair bit of fish when they are not here. I am engaged and we are slowly renovating OH's house for sale. It is getting to the satge of renovations that he will need to move in with me. It would be easier to be totally vegetarian when he is here.

I suspect some vegetarians may well find it difficult to cut down the calories and still feel sated - the quantity you have to eat to get sufficient protein is far higher than if you eat meat. I know dad finds missing a meal difficult, it's as if his body has an alarm clock in it when it comes to meals - 8am, 1pm, 6pm on the dot and you can tell the time by how he reacts to problems

And TBH I'd question why you feel the need to change your diet to fit in with them. Would they change theirs to fit in with you? If not then you have no reason to feel bad about it.

belfastgirl23

I've also been following this thread with a lot of interest. Having spent my whole life believing that you shouldn't allow yourself to be hungry, I've been reading a CBT book that points out that 'hunger is never an emergency'. When I thought about it I realised that I'd been treating even a mild hunger exactly as an emergency. So I've been experimenting a bit with IF. The longest I've managed to go is 22 hours though I was really starting to feel like I needed to eat then. And I'm trying to do a regular weekend 2 days where I don't eat from dinner on Friday/Saturday till lunch on Saturday/Sunday. So that's 16-18 hours fasting two days a week. I'm not saying it's easy but it's manageable and means that then when my main meal (dinner) is a bit bigger on the weekend I can still lose weight. Though I do still sneak in a morning cup of tea

Very interested reading about all your experiences too!

As a PS I'm veggie but am trying to at least eat fewer simple carbs, have mostly cut out fruit and eat v little white bread, pasta etc. Keen on eggs, legumes, oats, cheese, and pretty much all my bread is wholemeal, though I'm eating only about a slice a day. I've also once and for all abandoned low fat eating - I've finally accepted that butter tastes better and actually makes you feel more sated than margarine, same with full fat yoghurt rather than low fat, which is often filled with sugar anyway. All I can say is it's working at the minute.

Brighton_belle

belfastgirl23 wrote: »

I've also been following this thread with a lot of interest. Having spent my whole life believing that you shouldn't allow yourself to be hungry... 'hunger is never an emergency'. When I thought about it I realised that I'd been treating even a mild hunger exactly as an emergency.

Exactly the same for me BG. Though I do get a bit weak and rather irritable when I need food. That does improve with a lower carb intake though.
I have today completed my 2nd 16 hour fast - just dipping my toe in really and seeing what happens. Seemed fairly easy. And yesterday I limited my calories, but i know as a newbie I didn't keep it down to 500 cals but that's ok, this is a learning process. I need to do more reading up on the subject today, as well as eating 'normally'.

Thanks to all who have posted links on this thread. I went back to reread it all for a 2nd time and am now picking them all up.

lostinrates

Prudent wrote: »

Wow first person I have seen with the same problem. I have never talked to anyone before who has problems with speech due to a neurlogical condition.

There are a few of us about with different neurological conditions . My speech is pretty good now, in english. I don't think anyone who did not know me before only as an english speaker would be able to tell at all. My writing is ....intermittant at best. I used to be bi lingual with a strong third language and a smattering of others, i am now pretty much monolingual with weak sexond and third languages. ( no one spoke to me in my other mother tongue during recouperation, i think this is why i lost it) i also find it hard to read music now . I was a musician before. I am considering taking up a new instrument to see what happens, but want tuition not to find my own way or be taught by dh and don't really want to spend the money now. We do have a beautiful guitar here looking unloved though...


My long term internet chums know when i am tired or having a bad day, people who don't 'know' me just offer me a tirade of abuse or ignore me, both of whoch are their perogative.

adouglasmhor

pineapple wrote: »

I wish we would stop calling this eating plan (in all its varieties) a 'fast' - because it isn't. It would be more apt to call it 'very low calorie' or similar.
As for breakfast, it's been drummed into us all these years 'You must eat breakfast'. But some of us (ie me ) just don't feel like eating at breakfast. And if I do force myself, rather than stave off hunger pangs later on, it actually makes me hungrier! :eek:

Why I linked the definition of fast above and it applies. A fast is not only applied to an absolute fast.

adouglasmhor

Mojisola wrote: »

If you combine that with eating food in its natural state as much as possible, you've got it sorted. What better advice could we have?

Raw food can be very unappetising and dangerous.