5:2 diet

lostinrates

daska wrote: »

:wall: doh :rotfl:

Not at all.

My posts are often unclear. I am always fully accepting of the blame, but aliasojo got it.

Bitsy_Beans

daska wrote: »

The information overload is dizzying though, I quite agree, every day, alternate days, consecutive days, don't eat, do eat, eat only x y or z etc. We've been doing this for 1000's of years, we're designed to eat a variety of foods, let's just get on with it.

:T:T

Well said. I have found some of the Information out there far more confusing and thereby less helpful. I mean how on earth are you supposed to know which camp is right about their way of thinking.
So I've decided to ignore it all and listen to my body. I am a huge supporter of mindful eating. I am not very good at it but I believe we all spend too much time thinking we ought to be eating because it's lunchtime, we ought to be eating low fat because it's "healthier"......rather than listening to our bodies. My body has been trying to tell me for ages that I don't need breakfast.....I've finally listened thanks to the 16/8 and I wonder why I never thought of it before. Actually I guess I do. Frightened of being hungry that the world would collapse if I was a bit hungry, that I'd end up eating the entire contents of the biscuit tin. Trying the 16/8 has made me see that it's OK, I am slowly learning what true hunger feels like. Never in all my adult years have I felt that. Always ate once I got peckish.

I have a test coming up. Holiday (in Devon) next week. In the past (including the holiday at start of the school holidays) I have always ended up eating in "holiday" mode. Lots of excess crap, overeating etc. can I maintain 16/8 outside of my normal home routine......

lostinrates

Bitsy_Beans wrote: »

:T:T

Well said. I have found some of the Information out there far more confusing and thereby less helpful. I mean how on earth are you supposed to know which camp is right about their way of thinking.
So I've decided to ignore it all and listen to my body. I am a huge supporter of mindful eating. I am not very good at it but I believe we all spend too much time thinking we ought to be eating because it's lunchtime, we ought to be eating low fat because it's "healthier"......rather than listening to our bodies. My body has been trying to tell me for ages that I don't need breakfast.....I've finally listened thanks to the 16/8 and I wonder why I never thought of it before. Actually I guess I do. Frightened of being hungry that the world would collapse if I was a bit hungry, that I'd end up eating the entire contents of the biscuit tin. Trying the 16/8 has made me see that it's OK, I am slowly learning what true hunger feels like. Never in all my adult years have I felt that. Always ate once I got peckish.

I have a test coming up. Holiday (in Devon) next week. In the past (including the holiday at start of the school holidays) I have always ended up eating in "holiday" mode. Lots of excess crap, overeating etc. can I maintain 16/8 outside of my normal home routine......

I know i am feeling better because i am starting to hope i can travel again soon. I said to dh that if i IF the chances are i will not want to eat even when i want to try food when we are on short breaks, and that it might be better to plan say, five days rather than four so i can have tqo days where i, for example, don't eat till eveing then have a market bought picnic of local fruit and veg we cannot get at home, and in appropraie contries, perhaps some local cold meats.

Dh LIVES to eat and to go to restaurants and the whole gastronomic experience and is blessed with not quite hollow legs but a healthy and hearty metabolism, and he said, to my shock 'sounds great'.


On a five hundred calorie day there is actually a fair variety of some wonderful food. The menus in the telegraph were...exciting, food for people who love food and eating.....not the food of people who eschew gourmet tastes and food, but rather delicious.

I think back to before i was ill, and though i was NoT a healthy mindful eater I did fast, felt well on it and thrived. i have been so convinced for the last ten years that my health problems stemmed from parts of my lifestyle, and truthfully some parts did not help, but I was fit and a good weight and enjoyed when I ate the way I used to. Perhaps it was not the way I ate that has been to blame.

i cannot wait now to speak to the endocrinologist about this. I hope my referral comes really quickly. Today turning not turning mindful eating into a fast (which i still know might not be appropriate for me, or appropriate for me now, )was initself fairly challanging.

Jo049

Thanks for your posts re feelings of hunger/ hormones.
I realise my body was probably in some kind of survival/fasting mode, but maybe I just questioned it without thinking further, most likely due to past beliefs of needing to eat at certain times etc as others have highlighted!

Does this mean that those who fast (with no food), do you get hungry and therefore ignore the hunger during your fast? And say, like me previously, on a 'normal' eating day post fast, if you're not feeling hungry when do you break the fast? Or does there come a point where hunger obviously strikes eventually..?

I am very new to this, and after a day of fasting I was very keen to eat so I guess I didn't wait long enought of find out the answers to these questions myself, and just wanted to hear what others were doing?
Thanks - finding this thread extremely interesting to follow.

adouglasmhor

Anyone interested in diet and health in general I can thoroughly recommend, "The Health Delusion" by Glen Matten and Aidan Goggins. Very interesting stuff about how the media reports food issues.

pineapple

I wish we would stop calling this eating plan (in all its varieties) a 'fast' - because it isn't. It would be more apt to call it 'very low calorie' or similar.
As for breakfast, it's been drummed into us all these years 'You must eat breakfast'. But some of us (ie me ) just don't feel like eating at breakfast. And if I do force myself, rather than stave off hunger pangs later on, it actually makes me hungrier! :eek:

daska

lostinrates wrote: »

Not at all.

My posts are often unclear. I am always fully accepting of the blame, but aliasojo got it.

I'd have to disagree with that, I usually find you one of the clearest and most cogent posters on here.

lostinrates

daska wrote: »

I'd have to disagree with that, I usually find you one of the clearest and most cogent posters on here.

Wow, thank you.

( you must only read me on my better days! My neurological condition creates an interesting relationship with language you see)

daska

Jo049 wrote: »

Thanks for your posts re feelings of hunger/ hormones.
I realise my body was probably in some kind of survival/fasting mode, but maybe I just questioned it without thinking further, most likely due to past beliefs of needing to eat at certain times etc as others have highlighted!

Does this mean that those who fast (with no food), do you get hungry and therefore ignore the hunger during your fast? And say, like me previously, on a 'normal' eating day post fast, if you're not feeling hungry when do you break the fast? Or does there come a point where hunger obviously strikes eventually..?

I am very new to this, and after a day of fasting I was very keen to eat so I guess I didn't wait long enought of find out the answers to these questions myself, and just wanted to hear what others were doing?
Thanks - finding this thread extremely interesting to follow.

TBH I find it easy now but that wasn't always the case. When I was eating the high carb vegetarian diet I grew up on it was very much that once I started eating that was it for the day whereas if I skipped breakfast I felt less hungry for longer. Then I married a breakfast eater and my weight rocketed. BUT! Since I returned to eating low carb (because of my blood sugars being too high) I have found that I have naturally returned to skipping breakfast and often lunch as well. I don't follow a hard and fast rule that I mustn't eat, only that I must listen to my body and unless it's a social meal I won't eat unless I'm hungry. Others have said the same about preparing the body to cope with fasting, that they struggled when eating a typical western diet but that by re-training the body to use fat stores instead of carbohydrate intake fasting has come easily. Maybe if you're getting very hungry you need to look at adjusting what you eat before when you eat it?

Prudent

lostinrates wrote: »

Wow, thank you.

( you must only read me on my better days! My neurological condition creates an interesting relationship with language you see)

Wow first person I have seen with the same problem. I have never talked to anyone before who has problems with speech due to a neurlogical condition.