5:2 diet

~Chameleon~

Jennifer_Jane wrote: »

Non-fast day today: had managed to get to about 600 cals, so thought I could indulge in some refreshing Pimms and Lemonade, bought on offer during Wimbledon. Done that and I'm now on 1020 cals and feeling fine, thank you....

I added this refreshment (I'd done a mini spring-clean of the house, mowed the lawns, and most of the weeding so was sincerely thirsty) to my calorie counter, and inadvertently inputted it for breakfast. I hope no-one else sees this.

More non-fasting tomorrow. I find it quite hard to build up the calories ironically; although I remember from the Mosley programme that they also said there was a tendency to reduce calories on non-fast days, but would prefer to do better than this.

My first few fasts were a bit difficult (should add that I am retired so don't have to be alert for work, so it's an easy regime for me), but you do settle into it, and don't be discouraged with your initial fasts.

(Hope this post doesn't seem too merry, I may delete it tomorrow....)

You made me laugh

I was on a fast day yesterday but didn't feel in the slightest bit hungry after my post-workout lunch so indulged in a few G&Ts last night lol

Fairly certain I still came within the 500 cals but as one who never counts calories (they're actually quite meaningless) it's hard to call.

I know my lunch meal was only 245 cals according to Fitpal as I input my recipe on there to work it out

~Chameleon~

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

My husband is finding that on his non fasting days, he isn't feeling as hungry either. He doesn't seem to be eating as much junk! Of course some days, he does have an appetite for all the things he shouldn't, ie cream cakes, sweets, crisps etc, I mean, don't most of us at some point? BUT....the frequency seems to be reduced. Does this diet of fasting for 2 days do something to suppressing the appetite somewhat on the non fasting days then?

Yes, it affects our hormones and one of those hormones is leptin. The one which tells us we're no longer hungry so stop eating. Unfortunately this often gets switched off when eating high-sugar Western diets, hence the obesity epidemic.

adouglasmhor

tesuhoha wrote: »

I don't think you should be counting the calories on non fast days. I think you should just be eating what you want.

I always do, but I don't worry if I go over now and then on a non fast day.

Georgiegirl256

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Yes, it affects our hormones and one of those hormones is leptin. The one which tells us we're no longer hungry so stop eating. Unfortunately this often gets switched off when eating high-sugar Western diets, hence the obesity epidemic.

Interesting, thanks!

Jennifer_Jane

tesuhoha wrote: »

I don't think you should be counting the calories on non fast days. I think you should just be eating what you want.

Yes, I think that the objective of the diet is that you just eat normally on non-fast (which I assume means the usual healthy, balanced food), and stick to the 500 or 600 cals on the fast. The success of the diet is the simplicity of it. No rules except 500 cals on 2 days a week. Michael Mosley says he is on a mid-fat diet on his non-fast days.

Nevertheless, I did my Basic Metabolic Rate and TDEE calculation and it says this:

Your BMI is: 23.4
Your BMR is: 1179
Your TDEE is: 1621 calories

http://thefastdiet.co.uk/how-many-calories-on-a-non-fast-day/

Next week I'll be staying with my Type 1 diabetic partner, so will be on a delightful high carb diet, which I'll enjoy. This is why the 5:2 suits me so well, I can participate in his diet when we're together, then go back to maintenance, as required.

Thanks to all of you for your support for my post, I dreaded opening up this a.m. to see what comments there were! I've also discovered that Pimm's should not be drunk in such quantities!

This thread has turned into a lovely supportive group of people.

By the way, I went on this diet because I went to lunch with a friend who I hadn't seen for a month, and she looked fine, but just a bit less of her. She's on the 5:2 so that (and having seen the Horizon programme), set me on my way. Really pleased with it and the idea that you can maintain in the future, so easily.

~Chameleon~

Jennifer_Jane wrote: »

Next week I'll be staying with my Type 1 diabetic partner, so will be on a delightful high carb diet, which I'll enjoy.

If your partner is diabetic why on earth would they be on a high carb diet?

Mr_helpful

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Yes, it affects our hormones and one of those hormones is leptin. The one which tells us we're no longer hungry so stop eating. Unfortunately this often gets switched off when eating high-sugar Western diets, hence the obesity epidemic.

If talking about leptin I think it would be prudent to mention that it is fructose which does not trigger leptin whereas glucose does and i think also if talking about the effect on hormones of fasting you might mention Ghrellin and how it influences desire for high carb foods especially after fasting.

System

Oh here we go again, the trolls are back.

I can't be doing with them so I'll bow out of this thread. Thanks to those of you who have helped and motivated me, I wish you every success in achieving your goals.

Cheers
Rx

adouglasmhor

Mr_helpful wrote: »

If talking about leptin I think it would be prudent to mention that it is fructose which does not trigger leptin whereas glucose does and i think also if talking about the effect on hormones of fasting you might mention Ghrellin and how it influences desire for high carb foods especially after fasting.

It would be good if you would post a picture of yourself so we can all see what sort of results to expect if we were to stop what we are doing and follow your advice.

Jennifer_Jane

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

If your partner is diabetic why on earth would they be on a high carb diet?

Don't know, but he's been (type 1, obviously) diabetic since he was 11 and managed it very well - and says he has to have a carbohydrate with every meal for the sugar. He also has to eat three times a day.

So, when I'm menu planning, I always ensure we have a carb.