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Arrogant cyclists

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  • harveybobbles
    harveybobbles Posts: 8,973 Forumite
    red_eye wrote: »
    one day a rodie is going to ride a long on a hot sweaty summers day and instead of reliving himself on his bike he going to urinate over you though your open window

    Wouldnt be a problem as I never have my windows open - I have climate control...
  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    In the light of the tragic fatal accident outside the Olympic Park involving a cyclist and a bus has prompted me to post this.

    There is a small but busy drive though bus station near to where I live which buses enter at one end and exit the other. the exit lane is just wide enough for a bus and has railings on both sides of it's 12 metre length to prevent pedestrians straying into the path of a bus. Obviously the exit lane is one way and has 'no entry' signs prominently positioned at the end of the exit lane.

    Opposite the bus station there is a bar which has pavement seating where I often sit enjoying a pint (or two!). At any given time, you will see many cyclists of all ages riding the wrong way through the bus station using the exit lane. As there are railings, they would have no where to go if they came across a bus coming out. Even when it's dark they do it although the bus station isn't quite a busy at night.

    Why do they do it? Well I guess its to save them the extra 50 yards of peddling that they would have to do if they followed the legitimate route around the bus station. Sometimes its 'serious' cyclists that do it (wearing high viz tops, helmet, shorts etc but obviously missing common sense)

    It's only a matter of time before a collision occurs in my opinion and I suppose it will be the bus driver's fault.
    PLEASE NOTE
    My advice should be used as guidance only. You should always obtain face to face professional advice before taking any action.
  • geri1965_2
    geri1965_2 Posts: 8,736 Forumite
    Well, they are idiots. Just like the idiot pedestrians I see cutting through our bus station, despite the warning signs.

    There are idiots in cars, idiots on bikes and idiots on foot.
  • Nearly got wiped out by a pleb on a bike at the pelican crossing at London Bridge yesterday.

    He decided he wasn't going to stop at the red light and plow through the pedestrians who were crossing on a green man.

    I see that sort of behavior multiple times a day. Along with riding down the pavement because they can't be bothered to wait at the lights.



    Ok.....

    My son and I were out cycling today and very nearly got 'wiped out by a pleb' in a car who decided to pull out right in front of us.

    He (the car driver) decided he wasn't going to stop at the junction and plow through the cyclists (my son and I) who were riding along the road.

    I see that sort of behavior multiple times a day.

    Maybe we should ALL have more consideration for other people? Why do we all seem to leave our brains behind as soon as we get behind the wheel of a car or get on a bike?
  • cepheus
    cepheus Posts: 20,053 Forumite
    aardvaak wrote: »
    We were stuck behind some what looked like arrogant road race cyclists who remained 3 a breast for miles not letting motorists pass.

    This is very inconsiderate and breaks the highway Code. Why do cyclists (and horseriders) think they have the right to cause congestion on the roads by riding abreast? They should be reported and prosecuted.

    [Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A 1984, sect 129]
    66 You should
    • keep both hands on the handlebars except when signalling or changing gear
    • keep both feet on the pedals
    • never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends
    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/travelandtransport/highwaycode/dg_069837
  • Safety in numbers!

    I recently got knocked off my bike by a lorry because he didn't leave me enough room, if I was abreast of someone else, it probably wouldn't have happened!

    Re the zebra crossing points, cyclists don't have to stop, just give way...
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    Re the zebra crossing points, cyclists don't have to stop, just give way...
    Really?. Any proof of this.
  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    Safety in numbers!

    I recently got knocked off my bike by a lorry because he didn't leave me enough room, if I was abreast of someone else, it probably wouldn't have happened!

    Re the zebra crossing points, cyclists don't have to stop, just give way...

    Link to legislation that states this please!
    PLEASE NOTE
    My advice should be used as guidance only. You should always obtain face to face professional advice before taking any action.
  • Shamelessly stolen from ukcyclerules.com,

    "
    If you’re on a bicycle, you have to accord precedence to a pedestrian who is within the limits of the crossing before you are. (ZPPPCR reg. 25(1))

    You don’t have to stop – just accord precedence. This seems to mean give way. So long as you let the pedestrian go in front of you (so ride behind them rather than in front), you should be ok. (ZPPPCR regs. 25(1), 14)

    That said, you won’t need to give way if:

    They’re not a pedestrian. Someone who is walking while pushing a bike is a pedestrian. But someone who is riding their bike across the crossing isn’t a pedestrian – it might be a good idea to get out of the way, but you won’t commit an offence if you cut in front of them. (Crank v Brooks [1980] RTR 441, 442-3)
    They’re not within the limits of the crossing. The limits seem to mean the black-and-white stripe lines. If you get onto the stripes before the pedestrian does, you don’t have to give way. (ZPPPCR Sch 1, Pt II, para. 6(a))
    There’s a central island, and the pedestrian isn’t on your side of the crossing. The rules say that where a zebra has a central island, you can treat each side as a separate crossing. So you only have to give way to a pedestrian who is within the limits of your side of the crossing. (ZPPPCR reg. 25(2))
    So I think I wasn’t booked because the person on the crossing was on a bike. But it might also have been because they were in the central island of the crossing when I cut through, so not within the limits on my side.
    "
    http://ukcyclerules.com/2010/09/06/do-you-have-to-stop-at-zebra-crossings/
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