Arrogant cyclists

Handsome90

custardy wrote: »

Can you cite any UK case of a cyclist being convicted for speeding?

I don't think Prowla can come up with an example as speeding offence can only be done by a motorised vehicle. According to RTRA 89.1, "A person who drives a motor vehicle on a road at a speed exceeding a limit imposed by or under any enactment to which this section applies shall be guilty of an offence.”

But "furious cycling" is a different issue.

prowla

There is anecdotal evidence in threads at:

• http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060718154604AAs6R2B
• http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090927085939AAe6HwM
• http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080105190628AAKVo8s

But I haven't trawled the country's court records.

custardy

prowla wrote: »

I was just participating in a discussion about whether cyclists are subject to the law.

I don't think the speed that cyclists go is particularly a factor in the state of the road system, and I don't think anybody else has said so either.

From my perspective it is more about safety and courtesy to other road users, and about understanding your own vulnerabilities.

Im well aware of the safety aspects as a cyclist
I have also been lucky enough to suffer 'courtesy' from many drivers
this was the most recent one
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h160/custards_xbox_mods/bike%20crash/329083_10150467534163995_665208994_8805639_1616847762_o.jpg
from a taxi driver.one im financially and physically paying for nearly 8 months later

prowla

custardy wrote: »

Im well aware of the safety aspects as a cyclist
I have also been lucky enough to suffer 'courtesy' from many drivers
this was the most recent one
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h160/custards_xbox_mods/bike%20crash/329083_10150467534163995_665208994_8805639_1616847762_o.jpg
from a taxi driver.one im financially and physically paying for nearly 8 months later

Ouch!

Looking at things overall, I think the Highway Code has fallen into the trap of getting into specifics and forgetting about the overall picture.

It should simply give general rules that apply to all road users, and then state any exceptions or clarifications.

So, for speed limits, it could simply state that no road user is permitted to travel in excess of the designated speed limits, as a catchall, and then give detail on specific further restrictions.

mr_fishbulb

prowla wrote: »

Ouch!

Looking at things overall, I think the Highway Code has fallen into the trap of getting into specifics and forgetting about the overall picture.

It should simply give general rules that apply to all road users, and then state any exceptions or clarifications.

So, for speed limits, it could simply state that no road user is permitted to travel in excess of the designated speed limits, as a catchall, and then give detail on specific further restrictions.

The highway code is not the law per se, it is a guide to understanding various acts and regulations applicable to road users - http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069869

The Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 explicitly says "driving of motor vehicles" when listing speeding offences - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/27/part/VI

This is even more evident when you look at Part II of The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces Regulations 1997 which says "vehicles" instead of "motor vehicles" - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1997/1639/schedule/2/part/II/made

This was amended in 2004 and states the speed limit for Richmond Park as 20mph - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/1308/pdfs/uksi_20041308_en.pdf

I regularly ride through Richmond Park and have seen park police pull over cyclists.