Road Rage - not my fault... I think!

Wongsky

Bongles wrote: »

But the fact that some people react aggressively is really beside the point when the 'victim' reflects on the situation. The purpose of encouraging that reflection is not to persuade the victim that the aggressor isn't so bad after all. It's to ensure that the victim doesn't have an inconsiderate driving habit that inconveniences polite, patient people.

Thing is, though, most victims - like most aggressors, are blind to their own flaws.

There's always going to be inconveniences, whether it's things that hold us up, that really couldn't be avoided, people who really should be driving in a lane to their left, people who don't complete an overtake as quickly as we'd like, people who aren't driving as quick as we'd like, people who look like Boris Johnson, people who've got fake eyelashes stuck to the front of their car.

It's how we deal with that.

Now the reason why I have no truck with provocation or mitigation for aggression in these scenarios - not necesarily accusing you of defending it - but just putting it in the background all the same, is that there is no provocation or mitigation unless it's as a response to aggression - and in the examples this thread is talking about, that is most definitely not the case. The drivers we're likely focussing on as being feckless and inconveniencing the intolerant, probably would say boo to a goose, bless 'em, poor little lambs...

cyclonebri1

Lum wrote: »

FTFY

Neither is farting in a lift, but people are still going to hate you for it.

I agree with the gist of your post though. The actions of these people are not excusable, but if you want to reduce how often it happens, the only thing you can change is your own driving. If you are driving a bit slow and never check your mirrors then fix this. If you like to sit in the middle lane, stop doing this.

These sorts of thing aren't (always) illegal but they are inconsiderate, and you will wind up fewer people, and thus get tailgated less often, if you fix them. I'd still happily see the tailgaters stopped and prosecuted for dangerous driving, but since that's unlikely to ever happen I'm happy to just not see so many of them on my back end because I'm making an effort not to p people off.

Also, if everyone drove with the thought of improving traffic flow and trying not to impede others. The overall speed and safety of the road network would improve for everyone, without the need to add so many extra lanes, which will probably be rendered unusable by the middle lane owners club all migrating to lane 3.

Lum, I apologise if I had you for a chap chapess.

But I think we are in sinc, ps, you need to change your username or be more femine in your replies.

God that's a !!!! reply, go get 'em girl, sod what I think :T:T;)

LincolnshireYokel

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

It's sad if you feel the need to go to that trouble, you must attract trouble I can only assume.


The one thing that escapes you is what good is a beautifully focused image of you getting a knife in the guts going to do you?


I'm sorry, prevention if the answer, what good is a covert camera for that.??

Either cyclonebr1 and fergie42 are being deliberately stupiud, or diliberately obtuse.

The function of these cameras is it can prove you didnt cause an incident . In Birmingham, for example, the yhave a favorite trick of racing past you, stopping and reversing into you, and then claiming you ran into the back of them, and then making a personal injury claim for whiplash off you. Its called a 'swoop and squat' scam.. And unless you have it on video, you have virtually no defence to such an accusation. You comments are banal and pathetic.

Providing yourself with the means to prove your innocence is hardly a strange thing to want to do. On the other hand driving round waiting to get shunted, scammed or road raged like a lamb to the slaughter really is naive and wide eyed. This is a compensation culture.

Check Youtube, theres thousands of videos on there take from these types of cameras. Im hardly unique having them.

here, heres a few examples:

http://youtu.be/YWvG4KAYJfY

http://youtu.be/Lmpx_2zwPlg

http://youtu.be/3dmo8SiRDq0

Loganfire

women for you:rotfl:

LincolnshireYokel

Heres a walking one., Again, without a dashcam you havent a leg to stand on, and your insurance is ripe to be milked

http://youtu.be/BcGAKqANOzE

I suggest cyclonebr1 and fergie42 get wise to the nastier more unpleasant aspects of driving a car and protect themselves before they become victims of these types of scams. Not to mention the proof it gives you if you are attacked by a road rager.

cyclonebri1

LincolnshireYokel wrote: »

Heres a walking one., Again, without a dashcam you havent a leg to stand on, and your insurance is ripe to be milked

http://youtu.be/BcGAKqANOzE

I suggest cyclonebr1 and fergie42 get wise to the nastier more unpleasant aspects of driving a car and protect themselves before they become victims of these types of scams. Not to mention the proof it gives you if you are attacked by a road rager.

And I suggest you worry more about the quality of your own driving before you are hoisted by your own petard. It can just as easily be used to prosecute you.

I'll repeat as it hasn't got through although you are starting to show some aggressive tendencies of your own by the tone of the last couple of posts.

"prevent road rage by not causing it in the 1st place"

The camera may prevent a scam, it won't protect you from road rage.

And please don't call me stupid or obtuse again.

Strider590

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

The camera may prevent a scam, it won't protect you from road rage.

In certain circumstances I beg to differ, my GF and I were on our way to Hastings last month, on our way down (in her Ford KA) we came across a middle lane hogging middle aged couple in a Nissan Note.........

We were doing a solid/constant 78mph, when they saw us about to overtake in lane 3, they'd accelerate until we pulled in behind, THEN they'd slow down again forcing us to lane 3, the cycle repeated itself 5 or 6 times until eventually the other car got stuck behind a slower driver, we put some distance between us and pulled over into the middle lane again only to have this Nissan fly up past us and pull in front, the driver then slows down again (rinse & repeat this twice more)!!!
The whole time our speed had not changed at all.........

In the end I took out my phone and made sure the driver saw me pointing it at him as once again he got stuck behind a slower car...... We didn't see him again after that

I have to say there's something about a Ford KA that attracts aggression from other drivers, but in this instance the use of a camera put an end to the silliness once and for all.

Sgt_Pepper_2

Strider590 wrote: »

In certain circumstances I beg to differ, my GF and I were on our way to Hastings last month, on our way down (in her Ford KA) we came across a middle lane hogging middle aged couple in a Nissan Note.........

We were doing a solid/constant 78mph, when they saw us about to overtake in lane 3, they'd accelerate until we pulled in behind, THEN they'd slow down again forcing us to lane 3, the cycle repeated itself 5 or 6 times until eventually the other car got stuck behind a slower driver, we put some distance between us and pulled over into the middle lane again only to have this Nissan fly up past us and pull in front, the driver then slows down again (rinse & repeat this twice more)!!!
The whole time our speed had not changed at all.........

In the end I took out my phone and made sure the driver saw me pointing it at him as once again he got stuck behind a slower car...... We didn't see him again after that

I have to say there's something about a Ford KA that attracts aggression from other drivers, but in this instance the use of a camera put an end to the silliness once and for all.

So you went passed and hogged lane 2?

Wongsky

Sgt_Pepper wrote: »

So you went passed and hogged lane 2?

Whether, or not, I've certainly encountered those middle-aged, my-speed-is-the-right-speed-thou-shalt-not-pass types, before.

More of a pain when you return to lane 1, then they speed up to try and block you into lane 1, when approaching slower traffic.

Some people can be complete jerks about being overtaken.

LincolnshireYokel

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

And I suggest you worry more about the quality of your own driving before you are hoisted by your own petard. It can just as easily be used to prosecute you.

I'll repeat as it hasn't got through although you are starting to show some aggressive tendencies of your own by the tone of the last couple of posts.

"prevent road rage by not causing it in the 1st place"

The camera may prevent a scam, it won't protect you from road rage.

And please don't call me stupid or obtuse again.

Then dont behave like that. Yoiur view is moronic. You seem to assume that any accident or incident a driver are involved MUST be that drivers fault, irrespective of how good a driver they are. You seem to be completely unable to grasp that some people are perfectly good drivers, but a lot more are rude, aggressive, selfish, uninsured, unlicensed or in stolen cars, or simply are appallingly bad drivers. Your failure to recognise that the world is indeed a place full of nasty people who will not think twice about lying, cheating or otherwise taking you for a sucker, or simply attempting to bully you , just make you a victim waiting to be scammed..

And you implication, that there is something wrong with me for taking precautions to protect myself, as millions of other people have, by installing video recording, is in its self offensive and uncalled for. Then you utterly fail to acknowledge the evidence i posted that indeed there are several car related scams being operated all over the world and in the UK, which, if you do not have video recording running, you are a sitting duck for.

I assume you always send money to people who email you from Nigeria? Had you not realised that was a scam as well? You need to come and spend some time on the parking forum, we'll teach you a few things about the scams being operated here in the UK.