Road Rage - not my fault... I think!

cyclonebri1

Strider590 wrote: »

In certain circumstances I beg to differ, my GF and I were on our way to Hastings last month, on our way down (in her Ford KA) we came across a middle lane hogging middle aged couple in a Nissan Note.........

We were doing a solid/constant 78mph, when they saw us about to overtake in lane 3, they'd accelerate until we pulled in behind, THEN they'd slow down again forcing us to lane 3, the cycle repeated itself 5 or 6 times until eventually the other car got stuck behind a slower driver, we put some distance between us and pulled over into the middle lane again only to have this Nissan fly up past us and pull in front, the driver then slows down again (rinse & repeat this twice more)!!!
The whole time our speed had not changed at all.........

In the end I took out my phone and made sure the driver saw me pointing it at him as once again he got stuck behind a slower car...... We didn't see him again after that

I have to say there's something about a Ford KA that attracts aggression from other drivers, but in this instance the use of a camera put an end to the silliness once and for all.

I have only 1 thing to say about that Stryder, and you are the classic case on here.

You have to ask yourself "why is it always me?"

Ok I accept that you were probably the passenger in this case, but what if the bloke was a darn sight bigger and younger than you expected, he would have stopped, stud on your phone and rammed it up your jaxie.
Or worse,

cyclonebri1

LincolnshireYokel wrote: »

Then dont behave like that. Yoiur view is moronic. You seem to assume that any accident or incident a driver are involved MUST be that drivers fault, irrespective of how good a driver they are. You seem to be completely unable to grasp that some people are perfectly good drivers, but a lot more are rude, aggressive, selfish, uninsured, unlicensed or in stolen cars, or simply are appallingly bad drivers. Your failure to recognise that the world is indeed a place full of nasty people who will not think twice about lying, cheating or otherwise taking you for a sucker, or simply attempting to bully you , just make you a victim waiting to be scammed..

And you implication, that there is something wrong with me for taking precautions to protect myself, as millions of other people have, by installing video recording, is in its self offensive and uncalled for. Then you utterly fail to acknowledge the evidence i posted that indeed there are several car related scams being operated all over the world and in the UK, which, if you do not have video recording running, you are a sitting duck for.

I assume you always send money to people who email you from Nigeria? Had you not realised that was a scam as well? You need to come and spend some time on the parking forum, we'll teach you a few things about the scams being operated here in the UK.

What the heck are you ranting on about. I never even mentioned accidents, it's road rage get it.

The thread is about why some people seem to attract road rage and some don't.

Look at what the majority are saying and stop making any assumptions about me.
If you don't agree with me I'm sorry, but tough you can have your say but mouthing off like that just strengthens what I said about your aggressive attitude.

Wongsky

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

I have only 1 thing to say about that Stryder, and you are the classic case on here.

You have to ask yourself "why is it always me?"

Who said it's always him?

Where did that come from? Just because something happens to somebody, doesn't mean it's a daily occurrence. I've certainly encountered drivers who appear as if the very act of merely overtaking them is a mortal attack on their pride.

Ok I accept that you were probably the passenger in this case, but what if the bloke was a darn sight bigger and younger than you expected, he would have stopped, stud on your phone and rammed it up your jaxie.
Or worse,

Unless he was an exceptional driver, or his car fitted with a bloody big magnet, just because he stops, doesn't mean you have to. Besides, how do we know that phone camera guy ain't a former boxing champ, who doesn't frighten easy by chumps that get incensed that somebody had the audacity to merely overtake them.

That whole, you never know how handy some jerk who can't take being overtaken is - well that cuts both ways.

Lum

Wongsky wrote: »

Who said it's always him?

You're new here so won't know this, but Strider used to regularly post his dashcam videos on this forum and they used to stir up quite some debate with some people preferring to criticise Strider's driving rather than the subject of the video.

Some of those people would then bring up the videos whenever Strider posted in any thread and it seems he eventually got sick of this and stopped posting them here.

Here's an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VQFEDE2Ru0

LincolnshireYokel

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

What the heck are you ranting on about. I never even mentioned accidents, it's road rage get it.

The thread is about why some people seem to attract road rage and some don't.

Look at what the majority are saying and stop making any assumptions about me.
If you don't agree with me I'm sorry, but tough you can have your say but mouthing off like that just strengthens what I said about your aggressive attitude.

But i wasnt.

i made a post pointing out the benefits of putting dashcam front and back You then posted

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

It's sad if you feel the need to go to that trouble, you must attract trouble I can only assume.

The one thing that escapes you is what good is a beautifully focused image of you getting a knife in the guts going to do you?

I'm sorry, prevention if the answer, what good is a covert camera for that.??

So for a start, i had expanded the discussion, pointing out the advantages of dashcams, and reasons why they are useful, especially in accidents and scams.

You then make the above post, which contains the accusation im a bad driver, lets just repeat that

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

you must attract trouble I can only assume.

So, you attempt to belittle my contribution (by using the word 'ranting', which is designed to belittle by implying my post has no informational worth), and then you attempt to smear me and imply, on no evidence whatsoever, im a bad driver.

Suggest you apologise for your unpleasant attitude. Its people like you drive new posters away.

Wongsky

Lum wrote: »

You're new here so won't know this, but Strider used to regularly post his dashcam videos on this forum and they used to stir up quite some debate with some people preferring to criticise Strider's driving rather than the subject of the video.

Some of those people would then bring up the videos whenever Strider posted in any thread and it seems he eventually got sick of this and stopped posting them here.

Here's an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VQFEDE2Ru0

True enough, I know nothing about the form of members, here.

My point about encountering those that seemingly are affronted at the sheer audacity of being overtaken, remains, though - I have encountered them both personally, and observed it happening to other people.

As to the dash camera thing, I get that some don't like them, and I get that some people feel that those that use them, have their own flaws. All the same, though, whether there are people predisposed to them, or not, I see nothing wrong in the use of them, as a generalism - and ignoring the personalities involved, I don't get why some are so polarised against them.

I've been a member of a cycling forum for some time, and there's similar divisions about cyclists wearing helmet cams, too.

Here's the thing - before all the automation we get on the road, these days, there were more trafpol around - sometimes in unmarked. So there was a certain degree of omnipresence - or at least the threat of it. As that's very much reduced, these days, outside of falling foul of speed, sorry, safety cameras, I suspect over time, many motorists have felt more emboldened, and less observed.

Perhaps more accountability, would benefit us all.

Lum

Wongsky wrote: »

True enough, I know nothing about the form of members, here.

My point about encountering those that seemingly are affronted at the sheer audacity of being overtaken, remains, though - I have encountered them both personally, and observed it happening to other people.

I actually agree with you, was just trying to provide some background in an unbiased manner.

I know exactly what you mean though, some seem to form their own idea of what the speed limit is (e.g. NSL = 40) and then feel compelled to enforce it on everybody.

Some just seem to find that being overtaken by a woman in an L reg Nissan is like I've personally assaulted their manhood or something, and the only way they can possibly regain those lost inches is to get past me again by whatever means possible, even though beforehand they were happy to cruise at a speed slower than I wished to do.

The most common one I used to encounter when I lived in the south east was on the single carriageway A41 north of Aylesbury. You'd get a bloke in a fairly tasty car driving 6 inches off the rear bumper of a lorry that was doing 40, unable to see if it was safe to overtake, so I'd just sail past both of them. I was driving a Subaru Legacy at the time, seen as a farmers car even though mine was the twin turbo nutter version, so this would sometimes result in them overtaking the lorry in a dangerous manner and then forcing their way in front.

They did, at least, tend to do 60+ after that, so I didn't actually overtake them afterwards.. at least not until the next lorry.


I don't seem to encounter anything like this since I've moved to Wales. The slow drivers are generally happy to be overtaken and the fast drivers are generally ok with me wanting to do the speed limit, and will overtake me in a fairly sensible manner and disappear into the distance without incident.

cyclonebri1

LincolnshireYokel wrote: »

But i wasnt.

i made a post pointing out the benefits of putting dashcam front and back You then posted




So for a start, i had expanded the discussion, pointing out the advantages of dashcams, and reasons why they are useful, especially in accidents and scams.

You then make the above post, which contains the accusation im a bad driver, lets just repeat that



So, you attempt to belittle my contribution (by using the word 'ranting', which is designed to belittle by implying my post has no informational worth), and then you attempt to smear me and imply, on no evidence whatsoever, im a bad driver.

Suggest you apologise for your unpleasant attitude. Its people like you drive new posters away.

It's not my fault you are angry, you need to consider that carefully

I've used the word "sorry" twice so far in my replies to you, accept that as an apology, or be the arrogant fool you seem to be.

The belittlement you describe was after an assassination attempt on me with your very exited rantings that has absolutely nothing factual about my post, read again.

I'm going to repeat again, you are a prime target, or perpetrator of road rage, key word, attitude, you used it I didn't.

I don't have road rage issues, you do, ask yourself why.

Won't reply to you again but if you want the final word then go ahead.
But you have to remember you called me either stupid or obtuse and also moronic, that's attitude for you.

Gavin83

I think it's a bit unreasonable to assume some people attract trouble and others don't. While some people's driving style might anger other drivers it's perfectly reasonable to suggest road rage incidents could happen to anyone. After all some people have serious anger issues.

I've never been involved in any road rage problems or crashes but I wouldn't rule out a dashcam. They're clearly extremely useful in the right situations. I'd compare it to having a home alarm.

cyclonebri1

Gavin83 wrote: »

I think it's a bit unreasonable to assume some people attract trouble and others don't. While some people's driving style might anger other drivers it's perfectly reasonable to suggest road rage incidents could happen to anyone. After all some people have serious anger issues.

I've never been involved in any road rage problems or crashes but I wouldn't rule out a dashcam. They're clearly extremely useful in the right situations. I'd compare it to having a home alarm.

:T:T:T
Go to the top of the class, that is the issue.:T:T:T

And your other point about you not having road rage issues is exactly what I said in the beginning, and almost every other poster has said. Your not excluded from it, but if you drives sensibly then it's less likely.