Advice re selling car with Road Tax

Hintza

Trebor16 wrote: »

If you read the OP's original post properly Mikey boy you would see that the car has already been sold with the tax on it.

Exactly so you have blown your own argument out the water ........

Trebor16 wrote: »

Two words........................buyer beware. Ask the question "is the road tax included?"

Robin-o'-the-Hood

In my experience of buying selling privately, 'x' months car tax included is used as a 'feature' to help sell a car, or if there is no tax, it's pointed out. Never have I seen/heard of anyone selling a (taxed) car and THEN saying er, actually, no, the tax wasn't included...
I have seen, specifically, 'tax NOT included' and that's fine...you know where you stand. If the car has been sold (past tense, buyer's money in seller's pocket and car gone) I think this must be one chalked up to experience...I don't think its fair to then chase the buyer and try to embarrass him into paying more money. If the car had a fault that was not immediately apparent to the buyer the sale would the seller help pay the repair costs? (if so, your place in Heaven is assured)

Robin-o'-the-Hood

'apparent to the buyer at time of sale...'

NeverEnough

pendulum wrote: »

You keep repeating this and it doesn't matter. Anything present on the car when it is inspected and the sale made becomes part of the sale unless otherwise stated..

And I'll repeat it again. No need to be rude. A number of posters have made ridiculous analogies with the tax being similar to removing tyres and engines and the like, which is clearly absolutely not the same thing. So I'll repeat it again. And it absolutely does matter. Nothing in a private sale is cast in stone. If a mistake is made by one of the parties before the goods actually change hands, the sale can be called off as there will then not be agreement between the parties. We are not sure in this instance if the money has actually been handed over or if the buyer came to view, said he wanted to buy, and is to return to collect and presumably pay at that stage. OP may have used the words "sold" meaning a sale was agreed and the buyer was to return to collect and pay. So the money may not have been paid and nothing handed over yet. If I buy a car from a private seller, I certainly wouldn't pay them and say I'll collect it next week - I would pay on collection.

If a mistake has arisen, such as the tax issue not being clarified, the seller can point this out and renegotiate, or decide to take the loss. The buyer doesn't just have the right to fleece the seller regardless.

pendulum wrote: »

Like with a shop, if the error is noticed before the sale is made then the sale can be cancelled.
A shopkeeper can't chase after you once he's made a sale - if there has been a pricing error, tough luck, the deal is done. The same with the OP, he/she used words such as "sold" the car, and "now that I have sold the car"... this wording strongly suggests that the sale has already been made.

Only if the money was handed over and the sale already final - if payment has not taken place and the goods not effectively transferred to the buyer, the seller can point out the mistake and either decide to sell at a loss or renegotiate. As I said, if it was a cheap car, then £180 will make a huge difference. If it was ££££££ then maybe not.

photome

Neverenough I get what you are saying and agree, looks like we are a small minority...doesnt mean we are not right tho:D

Would like to hear back from OP though

londonTiger

mikey72 wrote: »

I also got the impression that he doesn't want to cancel the sale, and give the money back, but wants to insist it goes ahead without the tax included.

I think it's worse than that. I think OP realised that he/she forgot to mention tax disc in the ad, now she realised what they've done and now are trying to pull a fast one and swipe the tax disc off to make some more money.

Mistake OP made was leaving the tax disc one the car on viewing, had they planned to retain the tax disc, maybe they would have removed the tax disc before the viewing.

Trying to pull a fast with with the tax disc on it when viewing is just plain deceitful.

While a tax disc may not be an interal part of the vehicle like a wheel or something. It's common curttosy to explicitly state "Tax disc not included", "alloy wheels not include", "stereo not included", when you intend to remove something from a vehicle prior to selling that is currently installed.

In the absence of that disclaimer it should be a given that anything that's on the vehicle comes WITH the vehicle on sale.

Trebor16

Hintza wrote: »

Exactly so you have blown your own argument out the water ........

Not in the slightest.

paddedjohn

londonTiger wrote: »

exactly just like a shop marks a price wrong on an item they are obliged to sell it at that price.

Totally and utterly wrong, why does this myth keep doing the rounds?

ashleypride

photome wrote: »

Neverenough I get what you are saying and agree, looks like we are a small minority...doesnt mean we are not right tho:D

Would like to hear back from OP though

Actually I don't think there is much disagreement here. The problem is while the OP has said they have 'sold' it, we don't really know what they means. Has the OP accepted the offer by taking the money? Some people are assuming yes, others no.

pendulum

mikey72 wrote: »

If you left in on when he looked at it, it would seem fair to expect it was included. Sold as seen, and he saw it.

Mikey; would you say your view has changed much from this thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/53534973#Comment_53534973