Advice re selling car with Road Tax

mikey72

pendulum wrote: »

.........I've bought cars before and checked the tax disc in the window; it is something people genuinely do take into consideration when buying a car...............

Summary: seller is wrong, both "legally" and via "done thing".

Agree entirely.
Someone said earlier "The road tax does not add to the value of the car"
I look at it there and think, "that's £180 I don't have to pay now" just like I look at the tyres, and think, "they're knackered, that's £200 extra on top of the price if I buy this now"

neilmcl

So OP, care to give us an update of what you've done with this?

londonTiger

pendulum wrote: »

They did not have to ask, they saw the tax on the windscreen and had every right to assume it was included in the sale.

exactly just like a shop marks a price wrong on an item they are obliged to sell it at that price.

Syman

forgotmyname wrote: »

I was going to say something along those lines.

You go and view a car. How would you feel if the seller started removing bits he fitted himself?

Seats are coming out the old manky ones are going back in. Mates are coming out. Spare wheel is coming out i bought that tyre your not having that. Those wipers are fairly new im having them back you can have the old split ones.

If its on the car when they viewed it and tested it then it should be sold with it. Unless you specifically said the tax is not included and kept telling them that. Until they think your a parrot.

Personally if you said that and the tax was worth £200 i would knock £300 off my offer.

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I'd ask my mates to get out before someone viewed:rotfl:

NeverEnough

forgotmyname wrote: »

I was going to say something along those lines.

You go and view a car. How would you feel if the seller started removing bits he fitted himself?

Seats are coming out the old manky ones are going back in. Mates are coming out. Spare wheel is coming out i bought that tyre your not having that. Those wipers are fairly new im having them back you can have the old split ones.

If its on the car when they viewed it and tested it then it should be sold with it. Unless you specifically said the tax is not included and kept telling them that. Until they think your a parrot.

Personally if you said that and the tax was worth £200 i would knock £300 off my offer.

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Integral parts of the car are not the same as a tax disc. Seats, tyres, etc are all integral parts, a tax disc isn't. I'm not suggesting it is a good idea to buy a car without valid tax on it, just that there was a mistake, clearly, in that the OP omitted to make it clear that the tax would cost X amount more, or that the car with remaining tax would cost X or withut it, Y.

In the same way that a shop cannot be forced to sell you something they mistakenly advertised at a ridiculously low price, so the OP can't be forced to sell the car once the mistake is made clear- the potential
Buyer cannot force him to take the £180 hit. The agreement to purchase becomes void as there is actually no agreement due to the mistake.

It really depends on the price of the car- if it only sold for say £500 then giving someone a £180 gift on top of that is a bit much, but if it was considerably more, and the OP is depperate to get rid of the car, perhaps he cantale a massive hit of £180 for his error in not clarifying the tax situation.

People are just human and make mistakes- they should not have to lose hundreds of pounds on that basis on the sale of a privately owned item if the error comes to light before the actual final transaction, just like retailers don't have to be out of pocket when making errors in advertising.

pendulum

NeverEnough wrote: »

Integral parts of the car are not the same as a tax disc.

You keep repeating this and it doesn't matter. Anything present on the car when it is inspected and the sale made becomes part of the sale unless otherwise stated.

NeverEnough wrote: »

... if the error comes to light before the actual final transaction, just like retailers don't have to be out of pocket when making errors in advertising.

Like with a shop, if the error is noticed before the sale is made then the sale can be cancelled.

A shopkeeper can't chase after you once he's made a sale - if there has been a pricing error, tough luck, the deal is done. The same with the OP, he/she used words such as "sold" the car, and "now that I have sold the car"... this wording strongly suggests that the sale has already been made.

mikey72

I also got the impression that he doesn't want to cancel the sale, and give the money back, but wants to insist it goes ahead without the tax included.

Trebor16

Hintza wrote: »

Following your logic I could take off my newish tyres and replace with the marginally legal ones that I have just replaced.

But as the issue here is in relation to road tax your logic would appear to be flawed.

Trebor16

londonTiger wrote: »

exactly just like a shop marks a price wrong on an item they are obliged to sell it at that price.

No they are not. They have no such obligation.

Trebor16

mikey72 wrote: »

I also got the impression that he doesn't want to cancel the sale, and give the money back, but wants to insist it goes ahead without the tax included.

If you read the OP's original post properly Mikey boy you would see that the car has already been sold with the tax on it.