Plug pulled on Sir Paul McCartney

art_for_arts_sake

zenmaster wrote: »

Oh dear. Not strong on sarcasm are you?

I bet you do well in Trivial Pursuit or pub quizzes though .

In case it comes up, the pilot was Roger Peterson.

Sorry, I didn't know that you were being sarcastic as I didn't follow the original story that closely (don't care greatly for Springsteen or McCartney), but yes, of course La Bamba/Twist and Shout are virtually the same song.

John Lennon's vocals nail it for me though so his is the definitive version AFAIC.:o

Dave_C_2

art_for_arts_sake wrote: »

of course La Bamba/Twist and Shout are virtually the same song.

As well as not being strong on sarcasm, pop music of the 50s and 60s is not exactly your strong subject either

Dave

art_for_arts_sake

Dave_C wrote: »

As well as not being strong on sarcasm, pop music of the 50s and 60s is not exactly your strong subject either

Dave

Dave_C wrote: »

...It was a cover of an Isley Brothers song.
Dave

Oh dear. I'm not strong on sarcasm? And I question whether your knowledge of 50s/60s pop music is any better than mine as the Isleys didn't write Twist and Shout, Phil Medley and Bert Russell did. Anyway, let's lay off the ad hominem attacks for a moment and let's examine the evidence. La Bamba uses a straightforward I, IV, V chord progression repeated for the entire song. Twist and Shout essentially uses a I, IV, V, progression for much of the song too but occasionally printed versions of the music embellish the chords with a passing IV dominant seventh or I dominant seventh chord. The chord progression is as old as time, in fact La Bamba was originally a folk song before Ritchie Valens got his hands on it.

50s rock and roll took a giant leap when Buddy Holly used an augmented chord in Raining In My Heart but he never wrote it, it was Felice and Boudleaux Bryant, who wrote many 50s and 60s hits, especially for the Everly Brothers who also influenced the Beatles.

Dave_C_2

art_for_arts_sake wrote: »

Anyway, let's lay off the ad hominem attacks

Agreed

La Bamba uses a straightforward I, IV, V chord progression repeated for the entire song. Twist and Shout essentially uses a I, IV, V, progression for much of the song too but occasionally printed versions of the music embellish the chords with a passing IV dominant seventh or I dominant seventh chord.

And there was me thinking that one song with lyrics in English and an instantly recognisable melody was different to another song in with different lyrics in a differing language with a different but instantly recognisable melody.

50s rock and roll took a giant leap when Buddy Holly ...

... started recording and writing songs. IMHO

Moving on ... the story continues in Dublin.

Dave

northernsoul85

To be fair, the organisers were committing a crime if they had let it run over. Thinking of future shows I'd say they made the best decision.

There's nothing brilliant about Paul Macartney anyway

lovinituk

George_Michael wrote: »

As you are "The Boss" Mr Springsteen, maybe you should tell your band members that their whinging & whining just makes them (and in effect, you) look like petulant children who are crying simply because they didn't get their own way.

Perfect description of the OP too!!

OP - The total number of people worldwide who actually care about these couple of clapped out old men is a drop in the ocean. Who cares if they are laughing at London, many more people already do (and I still don't care!).

Azari

Maybe after the sound check they should do a reality check.

Yes, there are a lot of sycophants who will let you get away with just about anything because you are a 'celeb'.

If you want to flout the rules, ensure those setting them are members of your adoring flock.

(Nothing against either Sir PM or BS as I have enjoyed music from both in the past. It's more the numpties that lead celebs into thinking that the rules don't apply to them that I find annoying.)

mrs_sparrow

I thought it was a bit harsh until they interviewed one of the residents on the TV and they said that there was 13 planned concerts so far this year. Seeing as most of these are in the summer that is one concert every 1-2 weeks, and will usually end in a ton of fireworks and pyrotechnics (as seen on the TV) and then realised why they have curfews.

Your gripe is with the artist, not the council or promoter. 3 hours and he cannot get his set done? Tough luck!! They clearly had NO intention of finishing by 10.15 as the band member said they would be done at 11.00. They should have started 3/4 of an hour earlier then, shouldn't they?

bazster

lovinituk wrote: »

Perfect description of the OP too!!

OP - The total number of people worldwide who actually care about these couple of clapped out old men is a drop in the ocean. Who cares if they are laughing at London, many more people already do (and I still don't care!).

Wow, you've managed both ad hominem and argumentum ad populum in the one post.

Care to have another go? Let's see just how many fallacies you can come up with.

bazster

Major capital city, vibrant centre of world culture yada yada yada. Yeah sure, but just make sure everyone's tucked up with their Horlicks by 10:30 on Saturday night.