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BLW does require a certain level of relaxed parenting. If you're the kind to monitor milk intake and freak out about her gagging it may not be for you. However, there is evidence to suggest that babies fed on jars or formula become fussier eaters as older children. Worth reading up on it.Science adjusts its views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved.
:A Tim Minchin :A
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mildred1978 wrote: »BLW does require a certain level of relaxed parenting. If you're the kind to monitor milk intake and freak out about her gagging it may not be for you. However, there is evidence to suggest that babies fed on jars or formula become fussier eaters as older children. Worth reading up on it.
Alright gagging then happy now...anyone that thinks a baby gagging is alright needs their head seeing too, she brings her food up and is a sicky baby..
How do you know what kind of parent I am..??
Milk intake, did you actually read the thread SHE IS A VERY SICKY BABY..I always take the moral high ground, it's lovely up here...0 -
Ellejmorgan wrote: »Alright gagging then happy now...anyone that thinks a baby gagging is alright needs their head seeing too, she brings her food up and is a sicky baby..
How do you know what kind of parent I am..??
Milk intake, did you actually read the thread SHE IS A VERY SICKY BABY..
Perhaps you need to calm down and rationalise this a bit. I have offered a lot of advice in this thread which you appear to be ignoring.
http://www.babyledweaning.com/features/gagging/the-gagging-thing/
http://www.babyledweaning.com/features/gagging/the-gagging-thing-v-the-choking-thing/Science adjusts its views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved.
:A Tim Minchin :A
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Ellejmorgan wrote: »What I eat is irrelevant, this is about what can I feed a baby who chokes on lumps has no teeth and doesn't want to be fed..
It's not rocket science.0 -
I'm another big fan of baby-led weaning! And if you are trying lose weight then you can both eat the same healthy food, so no need to prepare anything different and you don't need to waste your money on baby food (only invented by food companies to make lots of money!).
Gagging, to an extent, is normal. How do you think a child learns how much they can fit it their mouth or not? It is hard and can be worrying giving a small child 'lumpy' food....what I did, for my piece of mind, was a baby safety course at my local children's centre where they taught me what to do in various 'emergency' situations including choking!0 -
Ellejmorgan wrote: »I haven't given her any that's the point of the thread, she's refusing baby food i'm looking at options for her as she can't chew lumps and is choking on them...
I know you haven't given her any yet, I've read the thread from the beginning.
You've had some brilliant advice about baby led weaning, and great, healthy suggestions about what foods to offer your baby. I was shocked and slightly saddened when I read your idea to give your baby fish fingers with the breadcrumbs cut off. There are so many other wonderful fresh foods you could offer to encourage her to enjoy eating.
You could offer a selection of different brightly coloured vegetables which look attractive to her, to make her want to pick up and explore them.
You could offer a whole range of different textures for her to feel with her hands, mouth and tongue.
You could offer her foods which have strong flavours and strong smells and others which are more bland for her to compare.
None of this needs to be expensive, veg bought from your local market can be so cheep, plus you can get stuff for pence at supermarkets when they reduce it in an evening. Besides have you factored in the amount of money you must be spending on jarred food which she isn't eating (at least if she doesn't eat 'real' food, you can enjoy finishing off what she leaves)
From what you've written, it sounds like she won't move on from stage 1 to stage 2 baby food (is that right?). Baby led weaning is not about giving her lumps like you find in baby food jars, it's about giving her solid pieces of food, about the size of your finger and then letting her decide what to do with them. After a few weeks of sniffing, licking, sucking, throwing, bashing, she will learn to chew and then to eat.Ellejmorgan wrote: »Alright gagging then happy now...anyone that thinks a baby gagging is alright needs their head seeing too, she brings her food up and is a sicky baby..
How do you know what kind of parent I am..??
Milk intake, did you actually read the thread SHE IS A VERY SICKY BABY..
Gagging is a very normal part of baby led weaning. It can happen for a couple of weeks when they start and as your baby learns how to control food in their mouth, they will gag less and less. It can be scary to watch, especially if you don't understand the difference between gagging and choking, and don't know what to do in the event of choking. I would strongly recommend an infant resuscitation course to all mums.
Baby led weaning is possible with a sicky baby. My LO (now 1) is BLWed and has severe reflux which had to be medicated at 4 months. We had no choice but to BLW as she refused to be spoon fed from the word go. We have since found out the reflux and aversion to being spoon fed may have been due to her toung tie (I've also heard that toung-tied baby's often refuse to move onto lumpy purees when they are spoon fed) Do you think it could be worth seeing a specialist to assess if this is a problem for your baby? This website lists trained medical professionals across the country http://www.lcgb.org/consultants_tongue.html0 -
Ellejmorgan wrote: »Alright gagging then happy now...anyone that thinks a baby gagging is alright needs their head seeing too, she brings her food up and is a sicky baby..
How do you know what kind of parent I am..??
Milk intake, did you actually read the thread SHE IS A VERY SICKY BABY..
Gagging is a normal part of finding out how much food they can put in their mouths, how far back to put it and how much they need to chew it.
Gagging on food is absolutely fine for a baby. Choking and making themselves sick is entirely different. You do need to be relaxed enough to learn the difference for it to work. FWIW I've BLW all 3 of mine and the only time I've ever had to deal with choking was when my daughter was 3 so it's not common.
My daughter was a very sicky baby and BLW was recommended too me. Fingers of roasted veg or the likes isn't giving her lumps. It's giving her food that she'll suck and gum to an appropriate point for her.
LO's really don't need teeth to be able to chew lumps. She might not like the texture of lumps and that's a different issue. BLW can help them as you can give different things and they get used to different textures and tastes.0 -
A sicky baby may be having too much milk? why not try putting some mushed up food and a spoon in front of her?
when i say mushed up I dont mean pureed - I mean mashed with a fork. That is the next stage if you dont use jar food. I never used jar food with my kids (Jars were for emergencies). they started on pureed then progressed to mashed with a fork and then cut up for them when teeth appeared. none of them choked but they did gag a few times. that is normal when learning to eat.
my kids ate what we ate - its only in the last fifty or so years that babies for some reason have to eat jar food!0 -
A sicky baby may be having too much milk? why not try putting some mushed up food and a spoon in front of her?
when i say mushed up I dont mean pureed - I mean mashed with a fork. That is the next stage if you dont use jar food. I never used jar food with my kids (Jars were for emergencies). they started on pureed then progressed to mashed with a fork and then cut up for them when teeth appeared. none of them choked but they did gag a few times. that is normal when learning to eat.
my kids ate what we ate - its only in the last fifty or so years that babies for some reason have to eat jar food!
There's actually no need for pur!es or mashed food whatsoever.Science adjusts its views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved.
:A Tim Minchin :A
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Elle I have read your OP and it reminded me very much of the experience we have had with our youngest child. Our baby was constantly sick from birth yet continued to grow and develop so nobody apart from myself and her dad were overly concerned. She was diagnosed as having severe reflux in addition to dairy intolerance at quite a late stage because of this. Our baby when we reached the weaning stage point blank refused to eat. It did not matter what she was offered or how it was prepared she was having none of it. If we managed to get her to open her mouth her direct response was to try to spit it out or choke to the point of being purple until she managed to bring it back up. I did the whole baby led weaning thing with her, as I had done previously with her brothers, which coincidentally is hardly a radical new concept for all of those going on about it being new enlightened thinking. I did this simply because it is what my mother did with her children, and what my grandmother and great grandmother and goodness knows how many generations previous to that did with their children! :rotfl:
My daughter was finally diagnosed as suffering from food avoidance. A condition apparently directly associated with the trauma of feeding in her early months. It has been a bit of a struggle at times but with much help and support from the feeding team at our local childrens hospital our baby girl finally took her first few mouthfuls of food aged 13 months. I am by no means kidding myself that all is well now, but it is at least a start on the journey to getting her to eat0
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