MSE Pregnancy Club 25

NoAngel

pigpen wrote: »

I didn't encourage or ever say no one else should go, each to their own.. I said I don't go.. totally different.. and was amused that others consider themselves delinquent when they are doing what is asked.. which was the actual point without you or anyone else reading into it what isn't there or meant by it. I think my final sentence indicated the gist/sentiment of my above post.

I have no symptoms of diabetes therefore no need for the test.. if I had symptoms it would be different, but given I know what those symptoms are I do take that into account and I also have the kit to check it myself here, the same as with any other illness really I know where to go IF I need to.. and I feel there are far more important tests which cost more lives that should be tested for.. strep B for example.

If I was likely to get whopping cough I think I might well have got it from my vaccinated daughter or my newborn grandson when they had it last year and I spent hours and hours with the 2 of them, or my sister when she had it 28 years ago. My feelings on vaccinations are for another time and place .. but I'd encourage everyone to read more info into it before having pets, children or themselves vaccinated against anything.

So if you want to read things into my posts that aren't there go ahead.. but tbh I don't actually give a monkeys what anyone else does (within reason) but will continue to encourage people to look at alternatives and to ask questions and if necessary get second opinions.. if we all blindly sheep into things without looking at any further information how would we know it was the right thing to do.. How many times have people asked questions on here because they were worried by something a midwife or consultant has said or implied.. surely it makes more sense to ask the person saying it why they are saying that.. questioning the actions of medical staff isn't 'being a pest' it is informing yourself so you can make a decision on your own body.. it doesn't suddenly become owned by the antenatal unit because you are pregnant.. you have the right to refuse things and ask questions and deserve answers.. truthful ones they can back up with evidence.

So if you want to just do as you are told go ahead but I am one of those lovely people that won't ever do as they are told and will question everything and encourage others to do so.. I could incite a riot in an empty room as my grandmother always said.. informing yourself is very important.. otherwise you will never know anything.

After ending up with post traumatic stress and horrific injuries after a couple of my children I think my low opinion of the majority of the staff is totally justified.. I can share these tales with you if you really want..

And before anyone harps on about the number of children which is pretty tedious and inaccurate .. I was actually like this with my second child so it isn't a new thing.. I felt I had been railroaded in to things I was not happy about with my first and swore not to go there with my second.. and the subsequent ones too.

Maybe it is a confidence thing but part of it is down to being misinformed and mistreated and negligence in some quarters.. but I don't think anyone should ever feel they have no control or rights over their own body and decisions about themselves... and I will continue to push people to stand up for those rights and get the information they need to be happy with those decisions.

Hi PP, thanks for taking the time to write such a thorough post! I'm sorry to hear you've had so many past problems, its not nice to think anyone is left feeling so dissatisfied at all.

I appreciate everyone's entitled to different views and these will often be based on experience. My decisions are based on NHS advice, advice from friends and family and evidence based information I've looked up myself. As a scientist I can be a nightmare about some of these things.

Thank you for continuing to support those of us with questions and who have had conflicting advice. I think we'd love to also hear about good experiences you've had though otherwise your opinions can be terrifying to read! Seriously, I'm stressed enough imaging a small person coming out of me in a few weeks without also worrying that the midwife or whoever isn't going to be putting my needs first.

pigpen

Claree__x wrote: »

May be a silly question but if I don't have diabetes and baby is still measuring big can I request another scan or something? I'm just concerned that they won't let me go past my DD if she's big due to diabetes but they will if she's just generally big. Obviously I know that the measurements are just an estimate buy surely if it's worrying me they should offer some sort of reassurance.

I know it's probably hormones but I'm sitting here with sore hands and arms due to their inability to take bloods (6 attempts all in over the 2 Times), feeling sick from lucozade and bring told that they won't let me leave until I've eat a sandwich despite the fact I don't liKey butter/spread - I feel like crying tbh!

They will offer growth scans if baby is still big by measurements. They are usually 32 and 36 weeks here.

You need to eat to regulate the blood sugars otherwise you might get outside and collapse as the glucose from the lucozade is removed from your blood stream and you get a rapid drop.. did they not tell you to take a pack up? Is there a canteen area you could get a pasta salad or something ??

nessie216

Question for you lovely ladies

I purchased a second hand crib last week from someone on facebook - it came with 2 mattresses - one has a removable cover that can be washed at 60deg & the other is one of the wipeable ones

My question is - what is your personal opinion about using these second hand mattresses (obviously clean & air out before using) vs buying new?

Any opnion is appreciated x

25+6

jillie1974

nessie216 wrote: »

Question for you lovely ladies

I purchased a second hand crib last week from someone on facebook - it came with 2 mattresses - one has a removable cover that can be washed at 60deg & the other is one of the wipeable ones

My question is - what is your personal opinion about using these second hand mattresses (obviously clean & air out before using) vs buying new?

Any opnion is appreciated x

25+6

unless it was a good friend, i'd buy new ones. They are not that expensive to get from Amazon.

Luciferswench

Congrats MrsJ

justonemorepairofshoes

I would buy a new mattress if I'm honest.

I thought the reason we had whooping cough vaccines wasn't to protect us from getting it, but to pass immunity onto the baby for the first weeks of their lives until they have their first set of vaccinations??

Could I ask what anti-d is? I have had my GTT at 27 weeks (I didn't get lucozade but this disgusting orange flavoured syrup which made me heave until the midwife diluted it with some water for me!!) and have had my whooping cough vaccine at 28 weeks but although I have heard mention on anti-d, i'm not sure when I should be having it?

My next midwife appointment isn't until 34 weeks so thought i'd ask you lot!

30+3

neneromanova

Now Pointing you all to a BRAND NEW THREAD

pigpen

NoAngel wrote: »

Hi PP, thanks for taking the time to write such a thorough post! I'm sorry to hear you've had so many past problems, its not nice to think anyone is left feeling so dissatisfied at all.

I appreciate everyone's entitled to different views and these will often be based on experience. My decisions are based on NHS advice, advice from friends and family and evidence based information I've looked up myself. As a scientist I can be a nightmare about some of these things.

Thank you for continuing to support those of us with questions and who have had conflicting advice. I think we'd love to also hear about good experiences you've had though otherwise your opinions can be terrifying to read! Seriously, I'm stressed enough imaging a small person coming out of me in a few weeks without also worrying that the midwife or whoever isn't going to be putting my needs first.

A small person growing inside you and coming out of you is amazing.. you will never experience anything as euphoric ever again in your life.. but it is something we are made to do.. it is our primary role as a living creature to continue the species. I feel there is too much intervention and wanting to control this beautiful natural experience and in trying to control it they remove the confidence in ourselves.. yes things go wrong sometimes and it is fabulous that there is the opportunity to provide intervention if it is needed but by withholding vital information that isn't what we are getting.. we are getting intervention which isn't required, what is required is the medical profession should be saying we are amazing and doing a great job and asking what we would like to happen and listening rather than asking then ignoring us and doing as they please which undermines confidence and makes us feel worthless.. How can that be a good thing especially for first time parents who need that confidence building?

All these here, having their first child worrying about real things.. family circumstances may not be ideal, support networks minimal etc.. they don't need knocking or frightening by the people who are supposed to be caring for them.. this is the thing that really winds me up!, they need to know that they will be fine, their instincts kick in and the overwhelming urge to protect the young is so over powering it takes over you life to a degree... to the point a simple day out becomes a military exercise.

As with all parenting decisions my advice is.. ask everyone and take from that what you think will work for you and always remember it is as much your right to say no as it is to say you need something and accept what you need.

Give me a couple of weeks and my kidneys will start playing up big time and I'll really get into whinge mode .. they need the baby out and don't improve until it is and seeing the gp/mw/hospital makes no difference.. they do antibiotics which do nothing as it isn't usually an infection... except give me thrush as well ..

Ideally I want the whole of the medical profession to undergo a massive attitude shift and realise that we aren't sheep or bits of meat or stupid and start working for us.. because they are there to fill a need, not us there to provide them with a pay cheque.. they are paid to provide a service which in many cases is severely lacking and it shouldn't be. I don't even think it is all down to funding or staffing it is down to not listening to peoples needs, not looking at individual cases, which is what we all are.

The MW I had with DS3 was amazing.. she was pleasant and helpful and let things happen naturally, she was encouraging when things got tough.. because there is always a point where you say you can't continue.. she was however at the other side of the room looking for non-latex gloves when he was evicted so completely failed to catch him but that was amusing.. His middle name is Maxwell after her Maxine.. if I could book her every time I would.. sadly she doesn't work in this area.

pigpen

nessie216 wrote: »

Question for you lovely ladies

I purchased a second hand crib last week from someone on facebook - it came with 2 mattresses - one has a removable cover that can be washed at 60deg & the other is one of the wipeable ones

My question is - what is your personal opinion about using these second hand mattresses (obviously clean & air out before using) vs buying new?

Any opnion is appreciated x

25+6

I got my basket back from DD1 last week with its 2 similar mattresses and I am buying a new mattress (mainly due to the dog hair rather than guidelines) but yes.. I'd get new mattresses for it... kiddicare ones are lovely and affordable and don't forget quidco cashback!

amus

justonemorepairofshoes wrote: »

I would buy a new mattress if I'm honest.

I thought the reason we had whooping cough vaccines wasn't to protect us from getting it, but to pass immunity onto the baby for the first weeks of their lives until they have their first set of vaccinations??

Could I ask what anti-d is? I have had my GTT at 27 weeks (I didn't get lucozade but this disgusting orange flavoured syrup which made me heave until the midwife diluted it with some water for me!!) and have had my whooping cough vaccine at 28 weeks but although I have heard mention on anti-d, i'm not sure when I should be having it?

My next midwife appointment isn't until 34 weeks so thought i'd ask you lot!

30+3

Anti D is an injection you have if you are rhesus negative. Yes the whooping cough vaccine is to afford the baby some immunity until they have their injections at 8 weeks.