Preparedness for when

Caterina

Thank you Thriftwizard this is very interesting, I shall explore it as a possibility! Christmas gift "for DH" perhaps? Hehehe:-)

Dippypud

in addition to my link the other day about the petitions in the US to secede from the Union ...

http://www.examiner.com/article/secession-debate-turns-ugly-as-new-petition-demands-deportation-of-secessionists

although tongue in cheek in tone, this has stirred up some bad feeling in the US ...

Popperwell

I see that the unrest is starting again in mainland Europe mainly organised by unions but...the usual countries are having a general strike...Spain, Italy, Portugal and Greece.

But to a lesser or greater extent others are taking part in actions to support those who are suffering and that includes France, Germany, Belgium, Cyprus and Latvia.

This is probably worrying the countries that think all is well or not as bad and is why they are holding back on their bailout to Greece as if this continues many more countries will be sucked into this problem themselves.

Two weeks ago we were being told that the recession was over in the UK and some silly figure of something like 0.01% had the experts and news kept telling us inflation had reduced today they say the opposite is true. It has gone up from 2.2% in September to 2.7% in October.

Some idiot on the radio has suggested that the econmy is improving and people take too narrower view of things by looking at their own circumstances as a guide to how bad things are and he admitted this meant worrying about affording food, untility bills, keeping a roof over your head, putting children first and doing without yourselves etc...how else will you judge whether things are improving. As he belonged to some think tank he probably is doing OK and really has no idea how many are living.

GreyQueen

Dippypud wrote: »

in addition to my link the other day about the petitions in the US to secede from the Union ...

http://www.examiner.com/article/secession-debate-turns-ugly-as-new-petition-demands-deportation-of-secessionists

although tongue in cheek in tone, this has stirred up some bad feeling in the US ...

Most droll.

I wonder if the lackwit suggesting that US citizens be stripped of their citizenship and deported from the USA has given thought to which lucky countries would be receiving them?

Sounds like pub-talk to me.

I believe that it is within the bounds of the US constitution that states can secede from the union and some of them certainly seem to have no love for their federal government and there may well be a popular groundswell of support for such an option. Whether it will happen at all, and if so when, is something which we won't know for some time.

craigywv

Vanoonoo sorry to hear about your work mates in usa absolutley awful! and all these strikes in europe its bad isnt it, i not a good political person had enough of listening to all that with the troubles over here so switch off when news comes on but i have been interested with what is happening world wide recently and my heart goes out to those people who cant even afford medication etc i fear for them.xxx i know i only on blood pressure meds but if i even miss 1 day i feel awful never mind people who need cancer/heart medsi hope it resolves itself.

D&DD

Good morning preppers Sorry been MIA but have had a few eye problems so can't read properly just yet still
I'm basically blind as a bat in my left eye and my right eye has had an infection and two styes all at the same time so I've been near enough blind which has been horrible,my worst nightmare tbh..I'm bored witless as I can't read,cook,sew etc because I can't focus much unless I blink constantly then it just gets too sore so feeling very fed up which is not like me..I'm off to get some new glasses in a mo so hopefully that will help and I'll read back and catch up when I'm able to.

Missing readin all your daily news hopefully will be back to normal soon XXX

2tonsils

Popperwell wrote: »

I see that the unrest is starting again in mainland Europe mainly organised by unions but...the usual countries are having a general strike...Spain, Italy, Portugal and Greece.

But to a lesser or greater extent others are taking part in actions to support those who are suffering and that includes France, Germany, Belgium, Cyprus and Latvia.

This is probably worrying the countries that think all is well or not as bad and is why they are holding back on their bailout to Greece as if this continues many more countries will be sucked into this problem themselves.

Actually the bailout is being held back because the EU and IMF cannot come up with a plan for the future for Greece which will help them get out of the recession and move forward to growth. Merkel is worried that she will not be elected next year if she takes the unpopular road with decisions.

At the moment Greece is looking forward to at least another ten years of crippling recession and austerity. They have realised that the average person in Greece has no more money left to give. The holding back of the bailout (which only bails out the banks, not the country of Greece ) is being used as a sort of blackmail to make the Greek parliament bring in the changes very quickly....like sacking 25,000 civil servants, cutting the minimum wage to 2 euros an hour, taking away all tax allowances so everyone pays tax including people who are already below the poverty line etc.

I do agree with some of the other changes such as allowing supermarkets to sell baby food instead of only chemists, the jailing of tax fiddlers, the opening up of various professions etc which are closed shops etc.

But even if they get the LOAN which was due in July, it won't make any difference to the people as they will still be trying to live on 300 euros a month, paying extra taxes on that amount and paying for medicines their contributions have already paid for....now THAT is why the rest of Europe is striking today and showing solidarity to the Greeks.

No other country will be dragged down by Greece....they are being dragged down by the EU and its rules and austerity which is affecting many countries and people. Strangely enough, I don't think Greece will be the cause of the euro crashing....they have oil, gas and gold reserves that are going to bring mind blowing riches eventually. I just hope they haven't given them all away during the blackmail phrase. Greece is only responsible for 7 percent of the total debt of the EU....so someone is responsible for the other 93 percent......

Most countries in the world are well into the red with their debts and I can't think of many who are actually doing well who have no problems. Their finances are all linked together through investment by....guess who?......the Bankers and governments.:mad:

Believe me, what you hear on the news and read in the papers is far from the truth of what is going on in the European countries concerned. That is why I am a voluntary helper on the Greek forums which are trying to spread the truth of what is happening. Now it is necessary to do this across Europe and I am hearing from friends in America that they are setting up similar forums to help each other get the truth out there.

Nigel Farage is one of the very few who knows what is going on in Europe and actually speaks out about it. He has my utmost respect for actually having a clue about it all and having the guts to bring it out into the open.

sophlowe45

I'v not heared anything about a european wide strike:eek:, how many countrie's are taking part?

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, European wide strike is today. Some small stuff going on in the UK.

14th November will see the first coordinated European general strike in history, with general strikes in Spain, Portugal, Greece, Malta and Cyprus - and significant strikes in France and Italy. YOU CAN BE PART OF IT BY JOINING THE MASS PICKET OF CROSSRAIL IN LONDON THAT DAY.

2 months ago, BFK (Bam, Ferrovial and Kier) sacked all 28 UNITE union members working for the electrical firm E.I.S., including the steward and health and safety rep, for highlighting serious health and safety concerns. Two weeks later a serious accident occurred - it was a miracle no-one was killed.

The head of human resources on the Crossrail project is Ron Barron, who was also a key figure in the Consultants Association - the organisation responsible for running a blacklist on trade unionists.

This dispute is now costing £30,000,000 A DAY in missed targets and delays to tunnellng - in other words, BFK are spending millions of taxpayers money to keep trade unions off the site and run an illegal blacklist.

This has gone far enough. Three more workers died on building sites this week. Pickets on the Crossrail dispute are facing violence and intimidation merely for trying to secure a safe working environment.

For info on the dispute, and to see the now legendary "green paint" response to violence, watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQie9SW8400&feature=youtu.be

Please note im not encouraging anyone to do anything! I havent even clicked on the youtube link yet.

Live coverage of today:

http://occupynewsnetwork.co.uk/live-updates-14n-european-general-strike-commences-united-workers-stand-up-against-austerity/

http://theoccupiedtimes.co.uk/?p=7577

sophlowe45

Have you all heard of Strikedebt yet?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/nyregion/occupy-offshoot-aims-to-erase-peoples-debts.html

Kitchen_Garden

Three boiled eggs should do the trick. By the way, I see that the seeds are not as cheap this year. Still I can cope with that.