Preparedness for when

pineapple

It has almost become the norm to see boatloads of migrants and crowded refugee camps - though we can probably still be shocked by a floating body or two. And now that the barbed wire and barricades are going up around Europe and so much is going on everywhere, I feel we are witnessing something apocryphal - not just people fleeing terror but a massive population shift - which will lead to civil unrest at best and possibly a whole lot worse.
Plus lets face it we have b all chance of ascertaining the origin of everyone owing to the practice of throwing away one's ID.
I would start by prioritising unaccompanied kids and women with children, then families.
I would give single men extra special scrutiny before letting them in..
It wouldn't be perfect but there isn't a perfect way of dealing with this imo.
Meanwhile pineapple is trying to get her head round the fact that - as far as Calais is concerned anyway - she lives in the promised land.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

It is a tender subject, I will remove it from my post,

If people feel I should remove the last bit, let me know, and I will remove that too..

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It's OK to express an opinion CTC, you're never deliberately provocative and never malicious, freedom of speech and thought is one of the greatest triumphs of democracy and applies to you too love.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

Thank you Lynn..

I just had my delivery of live mealworms.. I used to breed them years ago.. But lately I have been buying the freeze dried ones to feed as a treat to my quail, plus they are high in price n for them

I am going to start breeding them again. Mainly to erp the feed cost down, as once I got the colonies up and running , then they should cost pennies to rear.

Got me thinking as these are a source of high protein foods are are sold in Street markets in parts of the world. This could be a cheap form of protein in a SHTF scenario???

Don't know if I could eat one lol.. But might have a go one day

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That really is alternative thinking CTC, I've often wondered what of the native insect life would be edible in a crisis, I know snails are and earthworms and things like winkles, limpets and whelks but I know grasshoppers, locusts and some types of caterpillar are delicacies in the far east, I wonder would we be brave enough here in the UK?

Living_proof

I went to a food festival last summer and was surprised that an exhibitor there was selling dried insects. We tried a couple and were very favourably impressed, it seems this might be the way forward to stop starvation but it will take a while for people to accept it.

Karmacat

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

It's OK to express an opinion CTC, you're never deliberately provocative and never malicious, freedom of speech and thought is one of the greatest triumphs of democracy and applies to you too love.

Well said - I hope you didn't think I was implying anything negative, CTC.

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

I am going to start breeding them again. Mainly to erp the feed cost down, as once I got the colonies up and running , then they should cost pennies to rear.

I love that :j No idea how thats to be done, but please post details on here

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So far the list is :-

Woodlice
Snails
Ants
Slugs
Earthworms
House Spiders
Grasshoppers
Grubs
Green and brown caterpillars

It doesn't sound terribly delicious does it?

NewShadow

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Got me thinking as these are a source of high protein foods are are sold in Street markets in parts of the world. This could be a cheap form of protein in a SHTF scenario???

Think bigger

"You’ve got your fish in your tanks, tilapia – which do well in aquaculture - [pooing] away merrily, and that water full of nitrates is pumped through vegetable beds. The leafy greens love the nitrates and grow like fury, the vegetables clean the water and back it goes to the fish...the fish are fed primarily on worms from the wormeries at the back of the structure (which also supply worm tea, used as a pest preventative as a spray on the plants in the beds)...it could soon be producing between 30 and 35 kgs of fruit and vegetables a week and 200 kgs of fish a year"

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/jul/03/kate-humble-aquaponics-answer-food-crisis

nuatha

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

It is a tender subject, I will remove it from my post,

If people feel I should remove the last bit, let me know, and I will remove that too..

I don't know what you've said because I suspect you've removed a chunk. Quoted what's left of this post, in order to comment on the next.

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

It's OK to express an opinion CTC, you're never deliberately provocative and never malicious, freedom of speech and thought is one of the greatest triumphs of democracy and applies to you too love.

Very well said Lyn.
Some subjects are a lot more sensitive than others, therefore benefit from a more sensitive form of expression and discussion. However I don't think that should necessarily imply or require censorship, even if it does mean that a more tactful approach is appreciated.

NewShadow wrote: »

Think bigger



http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/jul/03/kate-humble-aquaponics-answer-food-crisis

Insects could produce a substantial quantity of food from relatively low resources.
Thank you for the link, that's worth following up on, though the mediaeval equivalent in the UK was carp if memory serves.