Preparedness for when

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On the news feed on my computer today is an article about the deal reached with Turkey re migrants and it says this will let Turkish citizens come to Europe without a visa from July 2016. I know we're NOT Schengen but the lack of a visa and the prospect of just who might be entering unchecked frankly terrifies me!!! I would do my utmost to help genuine refugees but the potential for terror under this set of circumstances is actually horrific.....what were they thinking?

elona

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COOLTRIKERCHICK

MrsL.. I bet the terrorist in Turkey are smiling from ear to ear with that..

I honestly don't think these politicians have a brain cell between them!!

They might have gone university and got wotnot degrees, but they haven't got an once of common sense ..

I just don't know what to say..

Except batten down the hatches guys.

greenbee

Turkish citizens have Turkish passports. They'll still need them to come here, but like most of the rest of Europe they won't need a visa.

Presumably we will no longer need a visa to go to Turkey either?

COOLTRIKERCHICK

What I would be worried about, wasn't there fake passports used by the terrorists in France/ Belgium ???

Nargleblast

At least one of the perpetrators of the Paris attacks had come into the country claiming to be a refugee. When Frau Merkel made her generous offer (yes, Deutschland will take 800,000, the more the merrier!) you didn't need a degree in the bleeding obvious to work out that amongst all those displaced persons there would be some bad uns.

GreyQueen

Yeah, just because people have self-selected to traverse several international borders, it doesn't automatically follow that they are decent people. Given the numbers, it is inevitable that some will be criminals already. And it's simply too easy for a terrorist organisation to slip some fanatics into the crowds, it's going to be happening.

Can't recall exactly when, but at some point in the last 9 years, the French government were robbed of a huge quantity of blank ID documents. As in tens of thousands. All UK local authorities were told at the time to be very suspicious of people presenting with French ID cards to access public services inc housing and benefits.

We've caught people here pretending to be Frenchmen of Algerian descent when they were Algerian-Algerians from Algeria with stolen/ forged French ID documents they had no legal entitlement to hold.

greenbee

GreyQueen wrote: »

Can't recall exactly when, but at some point in the last 9 years, the French government were robbed of a huge quantity of blank ID documents. As in tens of thousands. All UK local authorities were told at the time to be very suspicious of people presenting with French ID cards to access public services inc housing and benefits.

We've caught people here pretending to be Frenchmen of Algerian descent when they were Algerian-Algerians from Algeria with stolen/ forged French ID documents they had no legal entitlement to hold.

So no reason to be more concerned about a Turkish passport than a French one then :cool:

GreyQueen

greenbee wrote: »

So no reason to be more concerned about a Turkish passport than a French one then :cool:

Unless they'd somehow used the ID card to get the passport, as it was only the former which was stolen. But plenty of EU citizens are travelling and even emigrating into the UK with only their ID cards.

Seems crazy to me that when I live all of 20 miles from my birthplace, I had to show my passport to the LA before they'd complete the process of hiring me, and show my passport to the DWP when I last needed to sign on for Jobseeker's Allowance, yet we allow people from other EU countries to move around with only their nation's ID card as both travel document and proof of entitlement to the privileges of EU citizenry.

greenbee

I guess as we don't have ID cards, its difficult for us to understand how other countries see them - I think they generally feel that they are as 'official' and valid as a proof of identity as a passport. In many cases they have more sophisticated biometrics than some passports, and because they use them for so many official uses, they always carry them, and they look after them carefully.