Preparedness for when

Nargleblast

Trouble is, nuatha, it would not make good television or newspaper headlines!

nuatha

Nargleblast wrote: »

Trouble is, nuatha, it would not make good television or newspaper headlines!

So the Rothmeres and Murdochs of this world would go bust, that's a very worthwhile bonus

calicocat

Seems to me that there are two major culprits for lots of the world's woes to me.

Religion

Oil/money


Eventually, both might become unsustainable or no longer needed, and the world would be a better place.



I had quite a strict religious upbringing, and follow none of it now. To be fair, my parents did say once I had confirmation at 13yrs old (C of E) I could decide for myself. .....so I attended weddings/funerals/baptisms since that age. And to be fair, they never judged me for it. That is the way it should be.

At the end of the day, if you behave to folk in a way that you would want others to do to yourself....you are doing well.


All this extreme rubbish needs to be shot down/stamped on/and wiped out. It's nothing but control...and sheep.

moneyistooshorttomention

I think I was fortunate in that sense - ie the religious aspect of upbringing. One Anglican parent and one atheist parent resulted in me being sent to Sunday school when very young (presumably to find out the "basics") and then left to decide for myself what I thought. End result being someone who thinks "Be whatever religion you please - or none - as long as you don't try to ram it down anyone else's throat".

Religion can be a force for good - in the right people.

So - okay maybe religion and money (or oil) will stop being driving forces at some point. Frankly - I think that IF we land up heading back to the Stone Age as a human race, then we will land up with a very clear/very obvious division of the human race (even societies like ours) into serfs and "lords of the manor". Some people will refuse to lead a 24/7 life of drudgery and will try to turn other people into serfs if that's the only way to avoid it. We have machines as serfs now - so we can all be "lords of the manor" - but if those machines stop running (ie no oil to power them....) then....hmmm..

GreyQueen

Frugalsod wrote: »

Well all religions apart from Jedi. All we Jedi have to do is watch the now 7 historical documents and celebrate on our one holy day, May the 4th with a single phrase.

No restrictions on alcohol or food except for allergies though dark chocolate hobnobs can lead to the dark side. We can even send Christmas cards and work on our holiest day of the year even as we celebrate with a single phrase of "May the fourth be with you".

We are not anti science and are quite ecologically minded trying to live with the force.

I shall be booking Weds 4th May as annual leave, so that I can better observe the hob-nob eating tenets of my Jedi faith. Whilst lying on the sofa reading books.

My family is C of E. My parents fell out of the church-going habit when we moved into a town in 1970. It was customary when moving villages for the rector to visit the incomers and they sort-of expected the same thing when moving to town. Which never happened, so they never started attending church in town being Christians of familial habit rather than of personal belief. But they were baptised and confirmed, and sunday-schooled, married in church, the whole nine yards. My Nan and aunt are very active in their church, or Nan was before age took its toll.

Even as a young child, definately well under 10, it had come to my attention that many activities offered to children were being offered by religious groups and that there was a compulsory religious observance as part of it. I regarded that as very wrong and wanted no part of it, and would have no part of it. This wasn't a parental prejudice passed down but something I evolved all on my ownsome.:p

By secondary school, I was refusing to have any truck with the hypocrisy of daily religious observance in the school assembly. Opt-outs weren't an option, but if any kid was actually a believer, they kept it well hidden from their peers. We were being taught to be liars and hypocrites by bowing our heads, clasping our hands and pretending to pray to a deity most of us didn't believe in then and would never believe in later.

Being a fully-formed member of the Awkward Squad even at 12, I would be the one kid with her head up, not pretending to pray, and being glowered at by the teachers arrayed down the sides of the assembly hall to make sure that the pretence of piety was uniformly-observed.

Whereupon they would be getting a level stare back. No one ever called me on it officially, but there were enormous unspoken pressures to conform to the prevailing hypocrisy. Fortunately for me, I am stubborn and bliddy-minded all the way to the bone.

mardatha

Yes Ivyleaf it is a religion but one without any dogma, doesn't tell you how to think and that everything is bad, unlike the rest of them. Absolutely GQ same here - at 12 I remember standing in church thinking that all these grownups are two faced halfwits LOL!

GreyQueen

The school assembly was an enormous waste of my time, and of all our time. It revealed that the headmaster was a foolish windbag who would spending 15 minutes saying what could have been conveyed in one minute. That the teachers (not obliged to pretend-to-pray, only to monitor pupils' pretences) were hypocrites.

It would have been more useful if a teacher or two could have stirred their stumps and stood in the corridor outside the assembly hall, where we young girls were being sexually-harrassed by our male classmates as we removed shoes before entering the hall. With grabbings of bra-straps, staring up of skirts and humiliating comments.

Silly me, fancy expecting teaching staff to exercise good sense when there's other options.

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I've never understood how one group of believers in what ever they believe in can lay claim to God and say our God is better than your God to the rest of humanity. Surely God is God, no one can lay claim to personal ownership. In the same way I don't understand how you can build a building, give it stained glass windows and a bell and say 'this is where God is' surely God is everywhere and cares for everyone and everything, you can't shut him/her up in a building and say this deity is only for us, we are true believers. God for me is life, from the humblest amoeba to the most complex organism on this wonderful planet, God doesn't make distinctions only mankind does that.

Nargleblast

nuatha wrote: »

So the Rothmeres and Murdochs of this world would go bust, that's a very worthwhile bonus

I take it you won't be attending the marriage of Rupert and Jerry, then?:rotfl:


Mrs LW - well said on your last post. A thought occurred to me - what you have stated is a belief most people could happily live with. Perhaps we should start our own church, and, in honour of a certain good soul who departed last year, call it the Church of Docky?

NB the pixie in my IPad tried to write that as the Church of Dockyard.

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Nooooooo he's enough trouble in spirit form without giving him any more influence, do you want the whole world to chase squizzles??? or be sniffing trees etc. not to mention the bikkit fetish!!! Don't do it............