Preparedness for when

fuddle

I think when you don't rise to being threatened with the police for expressing a well thoughtout opinion, backed up with mature reasoning, on a forum, you can safely say that your break has been granted gran3.

I'm not actually sure what canisters we have so will have to look into it. Thanks so much for the heads up!

GreyQueen

I think the issue with any form of combustion, whether it be the hearthfire, a candle, the bonfire, your own cooker or a camping stove of some form or other, is that you need to treat it with respect.

Nothing is going to be completely safe and many accidents are caused by unbeliveable stupidity in the persons using them, such as the fools who throw petrol onto lit bonfires or bbqs each year and who suffer grave injuries or even die as a result.

You still get people who will use stoves inside or close to tents, for goodness sake. I once had to intervene when a friend who had left a candle-lantern inside a tent with her child, only months after someone had died in just such a way, which was widely publicised at the time. I insisted it be removed and extinguished immediately; that child is a grown man now, having escaped (mostly) unhurt from that and various other dangerous practices of his parents.

I have one of these butane stoves. I use it on the allotment, sitting on a concrete slab, away from flammables. It's a little sweetie. I have also test-used it at home, and it's fine, although I wouldn't leave it unsuperivised, any more than I would go out and leave my gas oven or burner on, and I am careful of the ventilation.

Frugalsod

GreyQueen wrote: »

I have one of these butane stoves. I use it on the allotment, sitting on a concrete slab, away from flammables. It's a little sweetie. I have also test-used it at home, and it's fine, although I wouldn't leave it unsuperivised, any more than I would go out and leave my gas oven or burner on, and I am careful of the ventilation.

I suspect that the real reason for the warnings is user stupidity. If these were inherently unsafe they would be banned before now. In fact what you mentioned about respecting fire should be essential.

GreyQueen

Frugalsod wrote: »

I suspect that the real reason for the warnings is user stupidity. If these were inherently unsafe they would be banned before now. In fact what you mentioned about respecting fire should be essential.

Yeah, the saying is you can't fix stupid.

I used to spend a lot of time using a hot air paintstripping gun. 2400 w. It had a sticker on from the manufacturer saying NOT TO BE USED AS A HAIRDRYER. Because it was sort-of the same shape. I wonder how many fools had tried to dry their hair with those things.

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DD1 runs D of E, takes groups of teenagers out on the qualification campos and hikes and often phones me in hysterics when she's back home. Last time one very decorative young lady, hiking through mud, wet, scrub etc. in pale pink expressed real surprise when they got to the wilderness campsite and there was no electricity plug to plug in her hair straighteners, which she'd carried in her pale pink rucksack all day!!! Priceless... and they were told all the way through prelim that there would NOT be electricity on the campsite, AAAGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

nuatha

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

DD1 runs D of E, takes groups of teenagers out on the qualification campos and hikes and often phones me in hysterics when she's back home. Last time one very decorative young lady, hiking through mud, wet, scrub etc. in pale pink expressed real surprise when they got to the wilderness campsite and there was no electricity plug to plug in her hair straighteners, which she'd carried in her pale pink rucksack all day!!! Priceless... and they were told all the way through prelim that there would NOT be electricity on the campsite, AAAGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

Many moons ago, I was on a training for gold expedition hike, after the first night's camp I awoke to the smell of coffee and climbed out of my tent to see one of the girls (mixed group) sitting outside her tent in pyjamas and dressing gown straightening her hair. I was served coffee from a cafetiere in a china coffee cup. 12 miles from the nearest human habitation with a gorgeous view over a lake, it was a wonderful way to start the day. We did another five days in the Grampians and each day started on similar lines.
If something is important to you then carrying it isn't such a burden and from then on I was a lot less hair-shirt about my approach to backpacking, but at least carry a version you can use.

Though I do remember on two occasions I had taken groups away as a youth worker having to explain that you could make hot water cooler by adding cold water - both times to 17 year olds, who had never run their own bath, let alone ever done dishes.

Doveling

Just downloaded "When money dies" Thanks GQ.:)

Not going to put anything else about brother, not right on this thread, things not good.

I'm going to see the consultant this p.m. Foot and ankle causing problems, I need to know what I can expect long term. Definitely put off having the other foot fixed.
This house was meant to be our final move and I love it. We downsized to a small 1911 semi with a manageable garden on the edge of a little town and we've been working hard on making it snug and cheap to run.
If we think I'm moving into stairlift territory:eek: we might have to have a little re-think!:(

Sorry, just feeling a bit negative this am:o

GreyQueen

Doveling, I hope you enjoy reading When Money Dies. It ought to be a set text in secondary education, IMO.

The sun is shining here, I have a non-working day, and will be stretching my legs by going down Chazzer Street for a browserama. Colour me consumerist, but there may be something down there I want. It might even be preptastic.

If I'm not back in a coupla hours, call the emergency services as the shopping monsters may have got me.

cat4772

A rethink and stairlift territory sound disappointing Doveling.

My parents recently moved to a bungalow and love it, but they are in their 70s now. But there are no concrete cellar stairs for mum to fall down (and no risk dad will ever wake up and find his wife next to him sporting a bloody towel round her head on Christmas eve :eek: far too long a story for a Friday morning )

Many years ago I camped and took a massive thermos flask with me. we were in cumbria and freezing but each morning I filled my flask with hot chocolate to have a drink through the day - was so worth the extra weight.

cat.x

nuatha

Doveling wrote: »

Just downloaded "When money dies" Thanks GQ.:)

Not going to put anything else about brother, not right on this thread, things not good.

I hope things improve.

I'm going to see the consultant this p.m. Foot and ankle causing problems, I need to know what I can expect long term. Definitely put off having the other foot fixed.
This house was meant to be our final move and I love it. We downsized to a small 1911 semi with a manageable garden on the edge of a little town and we've been working hard on making it snug and cheap to run.
If we think I'm moving into stairlift territory:eek: we might have to have a little re-think!:(

Sorry, just feeling a bit negative this am:o

We bought a house with a stairlift, wonderful invention. If for no other reason than carrying stuff upstairs I'd recommend them to anyone. We could have looked for a bungalow, but we decided that we'd get more space for our money buying a house and fitting a stairlift isn't exorbitant - as it happens we found a house with one.
If nothing else think of it as a laundry aid, rather than an eek.

Hope things are brighter soon