time sheets and accountability

Kynthia

thebull wrote: »

and just for the record my query is made in pure curiosity nothing more nothing less I just wanted to know that's all .

That's hard to believe considering you disagree with everyone who doesn't say it's' unfair.

thebull wrote: »

I thank you for taking time out to try and sell me the lie though I just hope it was in your own time! as at 1.12 today I was hard at work at the near bottom of the pile.

You have come across as incredibly sarcastic towards someone who had taken the time to answer your post in great detail.

thebull

tiddlywinks and kynthia now that you have got the hate off your chests could you both now just move on please . thank you for your zero imput

Andy_L

thebull wrote: »

thank you all for your speedy and helpful reply s I now know that payment is given "on trust " after a certain level in the NHS .
That is so very very very helpful to know

I'm a band 6, I work with band 4s & 7s and none of us do timesheets.

I suspect it depends what sort of hours you work.

If you have a 9-5 type set hour role (like us) then no need for a time sheet, unless you do overtime/TOIL. But your boss keeps an eye on when you come & go
If you have a flexitime post then a time sheet is needed
If you do bank then a timesheet is needed

Cheeky_Monkey

I'm guessing the OP chose the username 'thebull' as 'BitterandTwisted' had already been taken

thebull

I really think you need to grow up cheeky and leave this site to the grown ups .

Cheeky_Monkey

thebull wrote: »

I really think you need to grow up cheeky and leave this site to the grown ups .

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
pot and kettle spring to mind :j

thebull

OK thank you one and all for all of your input be it positive or negative I now have the answer to my question .............Thank you :j

MumOf2

I've worked alongside NHS staff for decades and have witnessed gross inequities in the number of hours worked by junior, middle and senior clinical and non-clinical staff. Many juniors work extremely long hours with no overtime or TOIL as do middles, whilst an awful lot of senior clinical staff (consultants) do their required 5 sessions over 2 days (keeping strictly to contracted hours for each session - not a minute longer), and then diddle around for the other 3 1/2 days a week for which they're paid eye-watering salaries. Of course a lot of their week is taken up with private hospital work, legal consultancy work or drug company advisory stuff, which all attracts sufficient income to double their salaries in a lot of cases. Oh yes, and then there are their awards, the highest of which (Platinum) doubles their NHS salary and all of which are pensionable.

OP may sound a bit bitter, but it is rather galling when you see it going on day after day, year after year. Whistle blowing isn't an option - I was involved only obliquely in whistle blowing against academic bullying last year and am still suffering from the fallout...

MumOf2

MumOf2

Other side of the coin:
A lot of academics (University staff) may not appear in their work offices very much, but do their work at home, in libraries, on fieldwork, etc. where they can concentrate on their research and writing (a requirement of their contracts). With no patient contact requirement, this is perfectly legitimate.

My husband (Professor) works all the time - he always has a notebook with him (even by the bed!) so that he can write down key ideas or research leads that come to him at all times of the day and night. Walking to the shops or on a bike ride at the weekends, he whips out his notebook from his jacket pocket and starts scribbling. You just get used to it!

MumOf2

Firefox1975

A crow was sitting on a tree, doing nothing all day. A small rabbit saw the crow and asked him: "Can I also sit like you and do nothing all day long?" The crow answered: "Sure, why not." So, the rabbit sat on the ground below the crow, and rested. All of a sudden, a fox appeared, jumped on the rabbit and ate it.

Q: What can we learn from this?

A: To be sitting and doing nothing, you must be sitting very high up.