time sheets and accountability

thebull

you are totally wrong cheeky monkey but thank you for your imput

DVardysShadow

marybelle01 wrote: »

And how do you know anything you get told on a public forum is more reliable than what your manager tells you?

If you want to know, make a FOI request of your employer.

Ppphhttt!

But how does one know that what your manager tells you is reliable? Checking on a public form is actually a good start. Don't knock it.

marybelle01

DVardysShadow wrote: »

Ppphhttt!

But how does one know that what your manager tells you is reliable? Checking on a public form is actually a good start. Don't knock it.

I wasn't suggesting it would be. I was suggesting that an off the wall question out of any context is likely to get just as (un)reliable an answer. Whatever the OP wants it for, you can lay bets that it isn't idle curiousity. And on that basis they want to use the information for something. A something that may well get them into a nice degree of trouble (or more trouble?) if they get it wrong.

thebull

Thank you dvardy

LittleVoice

Requirements for timesheets will vary for all levels from NHS organisation to NHS organisation.

The line manager of a Band 4 position may be a Band 5 or 6 so wouldn't necessarily know about higher bands in any case.

To find out how it operates in your organisation, use FOI if you must. I say "if you must" because FOIs are a cost to the organisation but one to answer the current query should not be two expensive.

thebull

shame we don't have any band 7,8 9 in to answer a simple question or is it a secret ?

Sambucus_Nigra

Perhaps they are all working? Or enjoying some time with their families? Or perhaps they aren't mindreaders and can't 'feel' that a question desperately needing their responses is urgently required, esp when in a thread not entitled 'Urgent, NHS workers in band 7, 8 or 9 - your assistance please'.

In any organisation, once you get to a certain level, you are paid a standard salary and any additional overtime is just what you do. You certainly don't do time sheets or get paid extra for it - that's for those lower down the food chain.

lr1277

Ok I'll bite.

I am a band 7 bank worker. This is my 2nd band 7 bank role.

I too complete a monthly worksheet. Signed by my manager at the end of the month.

My current manager handn't employed a bank worker before, so there were lots of questions.

But his office is next to my desk so I am sure he knows my rough comings and goings.

HTH.

antrobus

thebull wrote: »

...My question is how are higher grades and doctors,consultants,psychiatrist ,psychologists ect held accountable ?

Isn't that the job of internal audit?

The leading case on the legal definition of dishonesty - R v Ghosh (1982) concerned a surgeon who falsely claimed for operations he hadn't carried out on the NHS. You see regular stories in the media of sundry GPs, opticians, dentists, consultants etc being prosecuted, so I presume that someone, somewhere, is keeping an eye on things.

ohreally

Are your timesheets tied in with a labour management scheme (LMS)?