Is this a crime? If so, what offence.

Hoof_Hearted
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This is all hypothetical, wink, wink.

Take kids to swimming lessons and generally meet granny there. Car park crowded. I get there first and park. Granny arrives and was dithering about reversing into a space when a flash git drove in and nicked the space she was clearly reversing into.

Somebody (unnamed) was furious and waited until the flash git had disappeared to the gym (big muscles), picked up a match stick and let two of his tyres down. Petty, I know (but felt good).

Is this a crime? If so, what? No damage done, obviously.
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  • Stephen_Leak
    Stephen_Leak Posts: 8,762 Forumite
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    edited 25 June 2012 at 8:12PM
    Trespass to goods.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trespass_in_English_law#Trespass_to_goods

    And there could be damage to the deflated tyre sidewalls.
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  • Hoof_Hearted
    Hoof_Hearted Posts: 2,362 Forumite
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    Is that a civil offence as trespass generally seems to be?
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  • Sgt_Pepper_2
    Sgt_Pepper_2 Posts: 3,644 Forumite
    This is all hypothetical, wink, wink.

    Take kids to swimming lessons and generally meet granny there. Car park crowded. I get there first and park. Granny arrives and was dithering about reversing into a space when a flash git drove in and nicked the space she was clearly reversing into.

    Somebody (unnamed) was furious and waited until the flash git had disappeared to the gym (big muscles), picked up a match stick and let two of his tyres down. Petty, I know (but felt good).

    Is this a crime? If so, what? No damage done, obviously.

    So you let someone's tyres down?

    Hope you're not on cctv and get lifted for vehicle interference.
  • Stephen_Leak
    Stephen_Leak Posts: 8,762 Forumite
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    Is that a civil offence as trespass generally seems to be?

    Yes. A civil tort.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_tort_law
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  • Hoof_Hearted
    Hoof_Hearted Posts: 2,362 Forumite
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    Sgt_Pepper wrote: »
    So you let someone's tyres down?

    Hope you're not on cctv and get lifted for vehicle interference.

    Who said it was me......?

    Is there such a crime as "vehicle interference"?
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  • TonyMMM
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    It can be prosecuted as Criminal Damage (the damage doesn't have to be permanent), but can also be done under s22A Road Traffic Act 1988 (Causing Danger to Road Users)...


    Causing danger to road-users.

    (1)A person is guilty of an offence if he intentionally and without lawful authority or reasonable cause—


    (a)causes anything to be on or over a road, or


    (b)interferes with a motor vehicle, trailer or cycle, or


    (c)interferes (directly or indirectly) with traffic equipment,


    in such circumstances that it would be obvious to a reasonable person that to do so would be dangerous.


    Which offence (if any) would be a decision for the CPS to decide.
  • Hoof_Hearted
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    It wasn't dangerous as the car was in a car park but I can see b being an issue. I bet the person wishes he had worn a balaclava now.....
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  • Sgt_Pepper_2
    Sgt_Pepper_2 Posts: 3,644 Forumite
    It wasn't dangerous as the car was in a car park but I can see b being an issue. I bet the person wishes he had worn a balaclava now.....

    And if they don't notice, drive off and kill someone because some !!!! let the tyres down?
  • Stephen_Leak
    Stephen_Leak Posts: 8,762 Forumite
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    But a driver is, strictly speaking, supposed to check lots of vital things, including the tyre pressures, before each time they use a vehicle.
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  • Weird_Nev
    Weird_Nev Posts: 1,383 Forumite
    Criminal damage.
    You have rendered the vehicle incapable of use. It doesnt matter if the damage is capable of reversal or temporary. You MAY have done permanent damage to the tyres if you let it rest on the sidewalls, or you MAY have caused the driver to do damage if they then drive off without checking (as it would be reasonable to assume that some £$%* hasn't let your tyres down for no good reason).

    It#s an absolute !!!!!! move to be honest.

    Person finishes their work out, heads off and picks up the orphans they deliver to football practice, and then suffers a blow out due to under-inflated tyres killing 4. Still feeling so smug at revenge on a "flash git?"
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