Any tips for getting National Trust membership discounted?

qetu1357

dazzer68 wrote: »

We are going over old wounds here... If all parties involved, ie national trust uk, and New Zealand historic trust, and all the other national trust type companies around the world, who have an agreement to do this, then what is so wrong? Honestly I'm not sure what your point is, you obviously don't agree with it, but its allowed and agreed on, by all those involved. If I was doing anything illegal, fraudulent or deceitful, I wouldn't do it, but everyone involved knows the situation. We are all consenting ADULTS.
You have yet to 'point out anything dodgy'.
Qetu, just don't join, it's really that simple, and keep your very polished morals intact.

We are, we are.

It is wrong because the intention of the agreement between the NZ Historic Houses Trust and the UK National Trust is not for UK Citizens to buy membership of the NZ Historic Trust to evade paying the UK NT a membership fee.

This is evident from the reply from the UK National Trust where they obviously don't approve of your actions.

So it isn't agreed by all as you state above.

In the end we all have to live with ourselves and our actions but as we can see from this Guardian article of 2009 (and lets face it things have got worse from then)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/sep/07/survey-lawyers-honesty-public-attitudes

we have become a nation dominated by chancers, cheats and petty thieves.

dazzer68

Well we have both interpreted the answers differently, from the national trust. If they didn't approve of the scheme, why are they in it? And if it was against the rule, a tiny clause in the t&c's would soon put it to rights, ie you must live in said country to apply for membership.
It's no different from me importing blurays and DVDs from the USA, because they are cheaper there than in the uk. Or even buying them from tesco online, as they are sent from tax free jersey, is that morally wrong too?
If you were a nt member and went abroad would you use the card or pay on the door prices? Just wondering...
Lets see if you can have a grown up reply, without the constant accusations of my lifestyle, of which you know nothing about.

qetu1357

dazzer68 wrote: »

Well we have both interpreted the answers differently, from the national trust. If they didn't approve of the scheme, why are they in it? And if it was against the rule, a tiny clause in the t&c's would soon put it to rights, ie you must live in said country to apply for membership.
It's no different from me importing blurays and DVDs from the USA, because they are cheaper there than in the uk. Or even buying them from tesco online, as they are sent from tax free jersey, is that morally wrong too?
If you were a nt member and went abroad would you use the card or pay on the door prices? Just wondering...
Lets see if you can have a grown up reply, without the constant accusations of my lifestyle, of which you know nothing about.

Oh come on and get real please.............

The NZ Historic Houses Trust and the UK National Trust are in the scheme so NZ members have the reciprocal benefit of visiting UK properties and the NT members have the benefit of visiting NZ properties.

Now when they set it up do you think they even considered that UK citizens would join the NZ Trust so as to evade having to pay the full price in the UK?

Do you honestly think this was the intention or was not the intention of the reciprocal agreement?

And TBH if you are content to exploit an unintended loophole so a charity loses out, my god, what other standards do you have?

dazzer68

Well, lets just leave it upto individuals to decide.
Your replys don't have any substance. I think there's more proof you can join other nationl trusts sites, (every trusts has it on their site) against just you being objectionable. You can reply, but I've since blocked you.your just being obnoxious.
What's bizarre is, you don't have either membership, so not sure what your trying to prove.

voucher

some very cheap joining fees


http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/overseas-visitors/overseas-organisations/

qetu1357

Free family entry into today's Times.

That is the UK Times not the NZ times......

qetu1357

voucher wrote: »

some very cheap joining fees


http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/overseas-visitors/overseas-organisations/

And the heading "Overseas visitors".

Exactly, not Uk visitors".......

Quentin

qetu1357 wrote: »

And the heading "Overseas visitors".

Exactly, not Uk visitors".......

As you are unhappy with the nt (and presumably english heritage) for entering into the reciprocal arrangements they have done, then you need to take it up with them.

Using a moneysaving forum like this is a waste of your time.

Also have you heard about the scottish nt? They too are cheaper to join and gets you into english nt free too!

qetu1357

Quentin wrote: »

As you are unhappy with the nt (and presumably english heritage) for entering into the reciprocal arrangements they have done, then you need to take it up with them.

Using a moneysaving forum like this is a waste of your time.

Also have you heard about the scottish nt? They too are cheaper to join and gets you into english nt free too!

I have no problem at all with the NT entering the agreement.

I have a problem with people who exploit a charity's unintended loophole.

This is a money saving site, true, but surely ripping off charities is wrong and worthy of censure?

Quentin

qetu1357 wrote: »

........This is a money saving site, true, but surely ripping off charities is wrong and worthy of censure?

It's quite untrue (and some would find it offensive) to now say anyone taking advantage of the nt's reciprocal arrangements is "ripping off charities".

Fact: Membership of the nz historic places trust (and the scottish nt and many others) allows those members to visit NT properties in England in with their membership. The NT are happy to be involved in this. No-one forces them to do so!

And don't forget the NT does treat their customers unfairly (you would say rips them off) by charging non members more to visit if they agree to gift aid their admission charge (those that say "no" to gift aid pay less to enter!)

The suggestion that somehow by taking advantage of the reciprocal arrangements the members are illegally (you say "ripping off") depriving a charity is just nonsense. As if the NT is some oxfam type of deserving cause of a charity! Yes they are a "charity", but not one set up to help the disadvantaged, which you emotively try to suggest!

But you carry on with your campaign, as you are succeeding in keeping this thread on the front page, so many more moneysavers will see it and reap another reward in their pockets!