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The BBC TV Licence & Censorship Here

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  • The_Safordian
    The_Safordian Posts: 409 Forumite
    edited 19 June 2012 at 2:59PM
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    I am sticking to the rules, please point out where I haven't.

    Suggesting that you speak for the moderation team or owner is within the rules ?
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    I am not defending trolling

    You tell people to "move on" if they get abused, to me thats defending it
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    I am pointing out that there is no moderating team and the people that do the running of the forum

    Are you the moderation team or owner, YES or NO because this agenda has to stop
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    don't have time to deal with petty disputes like this clearly is.

    I don't find a few trolls trying to censor subjects as petty and I doubt you would if it was a subject matter vuvuzela agreed with.
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    To keep the forum (approx 80 different boards and tens of thousands of posts per day) running they don't have time to do much other than lock threads when the bickering gets too much.
    If you don't like it then move on.

    STOP with the repeats, its plain what your game is. It's clear you are going to keep spamming this until this too is locked, it would be interesting to see how you react if the siltation was reversed
  • vuvuzela
    vuvuzela Posts: 3,648 Forumite
    edited 19 June 2012 at 3:52PM
    It's not YOUR site either so why are you so determined to stop people debating certain issues, whats in this for you?
    It's not your site either so why are you acting like it is. You said before you have no connections with the BBC so why are you fighting tooth and nial to make sure negative topics are closed/locked ?

    I've never said it was my site, I have merely pointed out to you (admittedly a couple of times as you seemed to fail to understand) that the owner can do whatever they want and you have no rights to either keep using it or complain. I really don't care what you post about the BBC or the licence fee.
    I'm certainly not fighting tooth and nail to get your thread locked, what an utterly ridiculous assertion. I've also not posted anything on this thread about the point you're indirectly complaining about, ie the BBC. Only about the site itself and how it works. I've definitely not 'dodged the question' but I've tried to keep this on topic to what you posted in this thread, ie your views on the lack of 'moderation'.
    Oh and I doubt I'm the only one to have noticed you keep dodging this question but repeat the same old stuff like you are the moderation team or the owner???

    Paranoid rubbish.
    If I wish to get a subject you wish to debate locked/closed would that be acceptable?

    I don't care what you do with respect to the things I post. However your failure to recognise how the forum works / is run isn't putting you in a brilliant spotlight.
  • vuvuzela
    vuvuzela Posts: 3,648 Forumite
    I don't find a few trolls trying to censor subjects as petty and I doubt you would if it was a subject matter vuvuzela agreed with.

    In comparison to other threads eg in the bearpit of discussion time where there have been specific threats to others, race hate and persecution, merely arguing over whether a TV licence is needed is indeed petty IMO and inconsequential in comparison therefore not worth spending time on. That was the point I was trying to make.
  • vuvuzela wrote: »
    I've never said it was my site

    You have acted like it a few times now for everyone to see in your effects to defend the people who want certain subjects censored.

    Your answer to people being abused and topics being hammered with off-topic comments is simply to let them and move to another site!
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    I have merely pointed out to you (admittedly a couple of times as you seemed to fail to understand)

    Oh I understand, I know how certain people work, you either expect people to roll over or repeat,repeat and repeat...............something which incidentally would be moderated if it existed!
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    that the owner can do whatever they want and you have no rights to either keep using it or complain.

    And he's repeating again to make sure the topic is hammered with his constant repeats. He also ignores the fact he claims to be speaking for the owner while ignoring the owner has terms and conditions here!
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    I really don't care what you post about the BBC or the licence fee.

    Clearly you do, your post count on this thread proves it
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    I'm certainly not fighting tooth and nail to get your thread locked, what an utterly ridiculous assertion

    Then leave it unless you have something new to add?
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    I've also not posted anything on this thread about the point you're indirectly complaining about, ie the BBC.

    I know, I have pointed this out :)
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    Only about the site itself and how it works.

    Once again, are you the moderation team or the owner, YES or NO?
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    Paranoid rubbish. I've never said it was my site, I have merely pointed out to you (admittedly a couple of times as you seemed to fail to understand) that the owner can do whatever they want and you have no rights to either keep using it or complain.

    ................around you go expecting no one to notice this
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    In comparison to other threads eg in the bearpit of discussion time where there have been specific threats to others, race hate and persecution

    Moderation is moderation and you have an agenda as your next comment shows
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    merely arguing over whether a TV licence is needed is indeed petty IMO and inconsequential in comparison therefore not worth spending time on. That was the point I was trying to make.

    Make it look like a petty thing but forcing people to pay £145.50 for something they may not need isn't petty in my book & you ignore what the site is about, saving money. I know the type of people who like the lies to be kept and so do you


    I'll leave the last word to those who support trolling, censorship and act like they are the mods/owners
  • vuvuzela
    vuvuzela Posts: 3,648 Forumite
    You have acted like it a few times now for everyone to see in your effects to defend the people who want certain subjects censored.

    Paranoia. I have never said that.
    Your answer to people being abused and topics being hammered with off-topic comments is simply to let them and move to another site!

    Yep. If the person is too dim to realise how something works and keeps banging away then it's best for them and everyone else that they move on :) But that will no doubt be twisted by you to assume I am commenting on your licence fee views rather than your poor aggressive attitude :) As I said, I don't have any comments to make on the BBC on this thread, you are simply assuming I have a TV and pay the licence fee.
    And he's repeating again to make sure the topic is hammered with his constant repeats. He also ignores the fact he claims to be speaking for the owner while ignoring the owner has terms and conditions here!

    As I said, point out exactly where I have claimed to speak for anyone else other than me. I think we both know that you can't, as I haven't.
    Once again, are you the moderation team or the owner, YES or NO?

    If you actually read what I have posted, then you would have noticed that I have NEVER claimed to speak on behalf of anyone other than me.
    Moderation is moderation and you have an agenda as your next comment shows

    Cobblers. I was comparing your thread to something that actually matters.
    Make it look like a petty thing but forcing people to pay £145.50 for something they may not need isn't petty in my book & you ignore what the site is about, saving money. I know the type of people who like the lies to be kept and so do you

    So you are saying that you think your little threads should be treated the same as racist hatred ? My word, what a pumped-up ego you have.
  • vuvuzela
    vuvuzela Posts: 3,648 Forumite
    Make it look like a petty thing but forcing people to pay £145.50 for something they may not need isn't petty in my book & you ignore what the site is about, saving money. I know the type of people who like the lies to be kept and so do you

    My only comment on the TV licence in this thread :
    I know people who don't pay the TV licence because they legally do not have to. That's brilliant and I completely have no problem with that.
    HOWEVER they have an equitable attitude to life as well, not the crusading zealotry you seem fond of spouting.
  • The_Safordian
    The_Safordian Posts: 409 Forumite
    edited 19 June 2012 at 4:31PM
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    So you are saying that you think your little threads should be treated the same as racist hatred ?.
    I never said that, I just pointed out the lenghs you will go to get this subject gone from public view.
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    My word, what a pumped-up ego you have
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    not the crusading zealotry you seem fond of spouting.

    As above. You see how nasty they get when you fight your corner within the rules. This is why he's suggested a few times now that people should just go that don't agree with him or his friends.

    Remember people this all stems from the fact certain individuals do not wish to see negative topics about the BBC, an eye opener hey
  • vuvuzela
    vuvuzela Posts: 3,648 Forumite
    I never said that, I just pointed out the lenghs you will go to get this subject gone from public view.

    As above. You see how nasty they get when you fight your corner within the rules.

    Oh dear. You really have confused me with one of the people that you say have ruined your licence fee threads. I am not one of those people. I've just pointed out the flaws in your arguments in this thread re moderation and have only made a sinbgle comment about the licence fee, which actually broadly supports you.
    All you've come back with is that in your view I think I speak for the people that run this place. I have never said that and you can not find a single incidence of me doing so. While you're looking, please also find where I have defended those people you talk about, rather than informed you on how the forum works ?
    Your paranoia about this subject seems to be consuming you. Have you spoken to anyone about possibly getting treatment for it ? This is a serious question - the replies that you come back with are really not those of a right-thinking person.
  • vuvuzela
    vuvuzela Posts: 3,648 Forumite
    As above. You see how nasty they get when you fight your corner within the rules. This is why he's suggested a few times now that people should just go that don't agree with him or his friends.

    Remember people this all stems from the fact certain individuals do not wish to see negative topics about the BBC, an eye opener hey

    Utter utter utter rubbish. Nothing I posted was nasty, just my observations on your irrational behaviour.
  • vuvuzela wrote: »
    . I am not one of those people.

    I'll ask someone neutral to look through this thread and count your posts here telling everyone what the mods and owner think
    vuvuzela wrote: »
    I've just pointed out the flaws in your arguments in this thread re moderation

    No you've said there is no moderation which we all know isn't true
    The Board Guides are volunteer users who help to keep the forum running smoothly. They do not deal with reports made - and are totally separate to the Forum Team.
    Permanent MSE team members always have MSE before their names, ie, MSE Andrea, MSE Lawrence. Their job description is under their names, the official, green "MoneySavingExpert.com Official" logo in their avatars and their usernames are in green font. MSE Checkerman, who answers questions on the site's checker tools, is an exception to this.
    Keep threads on topic and boards running smoothly (including moving non-MoneySaving related discussions to Discussion Time/MoneySaversArms where appropriate)

    http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/site/forum-faqs

    Now please move along unless you wish to say you are right and the forum rules are wrong.......................you aren't fooling anyone
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