Playing the PPCs at their own game

Half_way

Although if you are not disabled you should not park in a disabled spot, neither should you cause an obstruction, doing so only encourages car park owners into the hands of ppcs and encourages ppcs by giving them justification to opperate.

bargepole

Half_way wrote: »

Although if you are not disabled you should not park in a disabled spot, neither should you cause an obstruction, doing so only encourages car park owners into the hands of ppcs and encourages ppcs by giving them justification to opperate.

When she came out of hospital, they told me to park in the disabled bay there so I could open the door wide enough for her to get in. This was still the case in the first couple of weeks afterwards, so she definitely needed a disabled bay or would not have been able to get in or out of the car, and had difficulty walking very far.

According to the bumf from the hospital, it does take a full 12 month period to fully recover from such an operation, so she would be covered by the Equality Act.

Anyway, as has been covered many times before on here, PPCs have no business looking at blue badges, that scheme only applies in carparks operated by statutory bodies.

Coupon-mad

LincolnshireYokel wrote: »

Nope its black and white. You are either disabled or you are not, and anyone who has cancer, or has had, even if they are now clear, is legally defined as disabled under the Equality and Disability Act, no ifs, no buts', no conditions.

Yes but don't forget there is also the issue of 'need' when using a reasonable adjustment.

To be legally 'allowed' to use a disabled bay a person would/should be affected by a condition which affects their day-to-day living, which is expected to last at least 12 months and which causes them to need to use that adjustment.

So that would not be someone with a broken leg (temporary) although that person may wish to seek special one-off permission from the owner/occupier to use such a bay. Not covered by the Equality Act though.

Could be someone with a non-mobility issue such as cancer, IBS, epilepsy, psychological or mental issues, sight impairment, etc.

Could be someone with a hip replacement if recovery takes 12 months.

But not someone who has recovered - they may still be considered disabled undere Act but would not actually need the adjustment (if their condition does not currently affect their daily living).

That's why it's fair in theory for an owner/occupier to check that their adjustment is being used by those who need it - can't argue with that although the PPC model is extortion of course! But not OK for them to pretend that only those with a Blue badge are allowed.

bargepole

Well, I got a letter back from UKPC, the usual guff: "we have investigated the appeal ... can confirm charge was correctly issued ... clear and sufficient signs ... blah blah blah please pay £90 within 14 days"

This is what I've sent back to them:

Dear Sirs,

I was somewhat surprised to receive today a letter from you, dated 26 June, in which you refer to an "appeal".

I have never sent you an appeal. I sent you a letter on 11 June (watermarked with the words "THIS IS NOT AN APPEAL", which should have given you a clue), in which I clearly stated the reasons why your Mickey Mouse "Parking Charge" is unlawful and unenforceable, and why the chances of my paying you a single penny are zero, zilch, nada.

I have reviewed the contents of my letter again, and can confirm in this instance that the letter was correctly written.

You will also recall, from said letter, that there was a clear and sufficient warning to you that if I received any further correspondence on this matter, you would be contractually agreeing to pay an Administration Charge of £90 for each such letter. I have, therefore, attached my invoice in this sum, and I look forward to receiving your remittance within 14 days.

Yours faithfully,

HardWorker2010_2

Love it!

I assume you will be drafting a 'Reminder' letter and a 'Legal Action Pending' letter to send should the scammers fail to pay your fully justified and reasonable charge...

HardWorker2010_2

Can I also recommend you consider passing the matter onto R.T.Fishall Debt Collectors and N.O.Treal Solicitors if they fail to pay.

bargepole

HardWorker2010 wrote: »

Love it!

I assume you will be drafting a 'Reminder' letter and a 'Legal Action Pending' letter to send should the scammers fail to pay your fully justified and reasonable charge...

Oh yes, that's all in hand. And as they are a limited company, I could threaten that I may seek a Winding Up Order if they don't pay ...

ManxRed

Don't forget to mention that you will 'get' a CCJ against them and that it may damage their credit rating. And bailiffs will visit. Probably.

Daft, I know, but hey, they started it!

notts_phil

Nice one Bargepole:)

fil_cad

Take them all the way bargepole, its about time someone got even with the scum