How much more in tax are YOU willing to pay to avoid immigration?

chewmylegoff

chucky wrote: »

Excellent, there is a scheme but in the matter of 3 posts there isn't one really.

Good backtracking, impressive.

Here we go again eh chuckster. Attack attack attack, desperately try to make something up to have an argument with.

kabayiri

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

The Americans have a track record of attracting immigrants, which is a very big part of why they're so successful.
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It's just one factor as you well know.

Right now, I'd take skilled entrepreneurial types and bribe them in.

chucky

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

The reason I bet on America to remain the dominant power of the next century, is because unlike Germany, Japan and China, America is forecast to remain in population growth.

The obvious advantage over the UK is that they have much more land, the challenges in the UK are slightly different. If the UK produced more entrepreneurs or higher skilled workers or even netter educated people we wouldn't need as much immigration.

A._Badger

kabayiri wrote: »

It's just one factor as you well know.

Right now, I'd take skilled entrepreneurial types and bribe them in.

It would be a start if the UK didn't make life so difficult for its own entrepreneurs.

ILW

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

The Americans have a track record of attracting immigrants, which is a very big part of why they're so successful.

From the plaque on the statue of liberty.....

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,"

The reason I bet on America to remain the dominant power of the next century, is because unlike Germany, Japan and China, America is forecast to remain in population growth.

Many Americans die because they cannot afford healthcare, a situation which you find intolerable in Greece.
The reason the US is successful is that they tend to be rather "survival of the fittest".

kabayiri

A._Badger wrote: »

It would be a start if the UK didn't make life so difficult for its own entrepreneurs.

Gordon Brown did all the talking about creating a high value knowledge-based economy whilst doing precisely f*** all about it.

Our politicians have no clue.

i8change

As the House of Lords Select Commitee report on "The Economic Impact of Immigration" pointed out in their Conclusions and Recommendations:-

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldselect/ldeconaf/82/8211.htm#a33

234. Arguments in favour of high immigration to defuse the "pensions time bomb" do not stand up to scrutiny as they are based on the unreasonable assumption of a static retirement age as people live longer, and ignore the fact that, in time, immigrants too will grow old and draw pensions. Increasing the official retirement age will significantly reduce the increase in the dependency ratio and is the only viable way to do so (para 158).

And they had access to evidence and professional expertise way out of the league of a obscure forum of mainly amateurs.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldselect/ldeconaf/82/8213.htm

chewmylegoff

i8change wrote: »

As the House of Lords Select Commitee report on "The Economic Impact of Immigration" pointed out in their Conclusions and Recommendations:-

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldselect/ldeconaf/82/8211.htm#a33

And they had access to evidence and professional expertise way out of the league of a obscure forum of mainly amateurs.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldselect/ldeconaf/82/8213.htm

To be fair you don't really need evidence and professional expertise to understand that a ponzi scheme isn't sustainable.

heathcote123

N1AK wrote: »

Nothing. The 'typical' British attitude towards immigrants is one of a long list of things I find distasteful about living here.

On behalf of every Britain, I apologise for forcing you to our horrid little land.

kabayiri

N1AK wrote: »

Nothing. The 'typical' British attitude towards immigrants is one of a long list of things I find distasteful about living here. If people want to cut immigration further they can find a way to fund it themselves and I'll find somewhere else to live

No one is stopping you living here. At the end of the day you have the same voting rights as everyone else here. Perhaps you might try and listen to your fellow citizens instead of looking down on them with disdain.