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Nice people thread part 6 - thrice by twice as nice :)

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  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    I was determined to fit low energy LED lighting throughout the downstairs of the house when we renovated.

    This explains why we can be seen moving cautiously in an evening, bumping into bits of furniture, whilst pretending it's just "a different sort of brightness".

    LIR, tread carefully, and try a mock up first :)
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    Yeah, all this new-fangled lighting and energy saving malarky .... you can't see Jack all.

    SRSLY ... one d4mned good, regular 100 watt bulb slap bang in the middle of the ceiling wins 99% of the time.
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    It's really lovely, and I hadn't seen your comment about it being thousands, so I rang up for a price. Umm, two dozen thousands, which seems rather a lot to spend on a light - not that I'm judgemental you understand, but PN will definitely not approve. :)
    Some people are a lost cause :)

    It's cheaper than I thought, I thought maybe £2,700-£3,500.

    I'll never enter the LIR world of prices..... so I don't tend to do too many posh alerts any more (it'd be a full-time job). I have to google most of the food that's craved.... just to find out what it is :)

    For £2,000 I'd expect a whole new kitchen, including lights, flooring, window dressings, some new bits and bobs .... and still have change for an indian takeaway.

    Pastures, he didn't say two thousand, he said two dozen thousands. That's £24,000. To me, that would be not so much a posh alert as an insane alert. I cannot imagine any circumstances whatsoever in which I would decide that a light fitting was the best use I could make of £24k.

    lir, getting the bits made and assembling it yourself sounds exciting (as well as much cheaper). Do keep us posted with how you get on with it.

    PN, I suspect most of the NP feel about your recommendation to "g to your local silversmith" in much the same way you used to feel when you were living in Cornwall and people suggested you go to your local Waitrose or similar. I realise it's not quite the same: I suppose there must be people doing jewellery repair in my county, but I haven't the faintest idea how one would go about finding them.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • In an attempt to get to know you all (and since this thread is in the house prices section) has everyone here now bought their house, or are you all still looking to buy? I wont be buying for a few years yet, but I am interested to know what part of the country people are buying in, as there seem to be a lot of londoners on this forum.
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  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    I was determined to fit low energy LED lighting throughout the downstairs of the house when we renovated.

    This explains why we can be seen moving cautiously in an evening, bumping into bits of furniture, whilst pretending it's just "a different sort of brightness".

    LIR, tread carefully, and try a mock up first :)
    Yeah, all this new-fangled lighting and energy saving malarky .... you can't see Jack all.

    SRSLY ... one d4mned good, regular 100 watt bulb slap bang in the middle of the ceiling wins 99% of the time.

    I have LED lights in my kitchen. Four "bulbs" each with 80 LEDs drawing a total power of 4.5W. They're a lot better than the halogens that were there before, and most bits of the kitchen are comfortably well lit even with just the 4 of them. All I need to do now is replace the other 4 fittings (only 3 of which work ATM) and then I'll get 4 more of the same. 8 will do nicely for the whole kitchen, I'm sure. Kitchens are not good for the "one central bulb" set up IMO because you spend a lot of your time with your body between the work surface and the central point where the light would be, so what you're doing is in shadow.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    Kitchens are not good for the "one central bulb" set up IMO because you spend a lot of your time with your body between the work surface and the central point where the light would be, so what you're doing is in shadow.

    it depends though doesn't it. if you are microwaving a frozen kebab, one central bulb is probably the ideal solution.

    we've got halogen spotlights everywhere. they constantly blow. i used to wait until about 10 were out around the house and then replace them all at once. at least one more would go within 10 minutes of that so i stopped. currently our kitchen and bedroom are both operating on the "one halogen spotlight somewhere in the corner of the room" principle.

    you can't see a thing which is going on, but our electricity bills have fallen off a cliff.
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    MiddyMum wrote: »
    In an attempt to get to know you all (and since this thread is in the house prices section) has everyone here now bought their house, or are you all still looking to buy? I wont be buying for a few years yet, but I am interested to know what part of the country people are buying in, as there seem to be a lot of londoners on this forum.

    I was in rented when I joined the forum. I came into some money at the end of 2009 and started house hunting. It took me just over a year to find what I wanted and get it at a price I was willing to pay, so I bought in January 2011. I'm a "single step on the ladder" person - this is my first house but also my "forever house".
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    it depends though doesn't it. if you are microwaving a frozen kebab, one central bulb is probably the ideal solution.

    we've got halogen spotlights everywhere. they constantly blow. i used to wait until about 10 were out around the house and then replace them all at once. at least one more would go within 10 minutes of that so i stopped. currently our kitchen and bedroom are both operating on the "one halogen spotlight somewhere in the corner of the room" principle.

    you can't see a thing which is going on, but our electricity bills have fallen off a cliff.

    I feel for you. My kitchen had halogens that kept blowing, plus some big spotlight things that were even worse - the bulbs go, but so do the fittings, so they don't work even if you put new bulbs in. :(

    These 4.5W LED things I've got are GU10 fitting and replaced 50W halogens. So if you can put up with the intial outlay, you can run 11 of them for the same electricity cost as one halogen, and they last for ages. :)

    See - I can do sympathy *and* ideas. :D
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    I have LED lights in my kitchen. Four "bulbs" each with 80 LEDs drawing a total power of 4.5W. They're a lot better than the halogens that were there before, and most bits of the kitchen are comfortably well lit even with just the 4 of them. All I need to do now is replace the other 4 fittings (only 3 of which work ATM) and then I'll get 4 more of the same. 8 will do nicely for the whole kitchen, I'm sure. Kitchens are not good for the "one central bulb" set up IMO because you spend a lot of your time with your body between the work surface and the central point where the light would be, so what you're doing is in shadow.

    I've got Halers evoLEDs in the kitchen surrounding the velux window. They draw more power, 7.9W each, but output more lumens.

    Alas, the websites where you calculate the required number of lights didn't account for a vaulted ceiling ! (That's my excuse anyway, and I'm sticking with it). I pretend that I always had in my mind plenty of local work scene illumination to supplement the main lighting.

    When replacing with LEDs "enough is never enough". The LED lights often have a narrower dispersal angle, and lower level of luminosity.
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,300 Forumite
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    edited 14 September 2012 at 1:26PM
    LydiaJ wrote: »
    I have LED lights in my kitchen. Four "bulbs" each with 80 LEDs drawing a total power of 4.5W. They're a lot better than the halogens that were there before, and most bits of the kitchen are comfortably well lit even with just the 4 of them. All I need to do now is replace the other 4 fittings (only 3 of which work ATM) and then I'll get 4 more of the same. 8 will do nicely for the whole kitchen, I'm sure. Kitchens are not good for the "one central bulb" set up IMO because you spend a lot of your time with your body between the work surface and the central point where the light would be, so what you're doing is in shadow.

    We have four ordinary fluorescent fittings in our kitchen. This will upset some folk, I fear, but it probably conforms to Silvercar's view of me. They look like this:
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    They work really well, but we have 8x40w tubes, which is not very MSE, and they are not very elegant.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
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