I'm beginning to feel paranoid .......

thorsoak

And feel I must apologise for still being here on this earth at the age of almost 69

What with the threads on the rudeness of pensioners and the iniquities of baby-boomers - exacerbated by Fatballz signature
"Baby Boomers: Taking out more than twice as much from the state as they've put in, since 1946. (That's their share, your share, and they're starting on your kids share). "

We've heard the scorn poured out on mothers/mothers in law who don't help/interfere/not supporting their children propping up siblings, etc etc etc.

I feel that we are becoming the scapegoats for all the ills in the world. I've heard muttered comments from some 30-somethings when a friend and I have gone into a Wine Bar "oh gawd, its the coffin dodgers" - neither of us were mutton dressed as lamb nor were we Nora Batties - but that comment hurt!

We're not all bad - but it hurts when it would appear that we are all tarred with the same brush. I'm polite, helpful to EVERYONE - I still work, I pay my way and I treat people of all ages with respect - so why can we not be treated in the same way?

Maybe I should get a mobility scooter and just drive myself off the edge of a suitable cliff/riverbank - would that be the most appropriate thing to do? Or just stop reading MSE - honestly, the posts on here do seem to be the worst of the lot!

fluffnutter

It's just people letting off steam, innit (just as you've done ). If you're happy with your life and feel you're a nice person, which no doubt you are, who cares what anyone else thinks?

raven83

thorsoak wrote: »

And feel I must apologise for still being here on this earth at the age of almost 69

What with the threads on the rudeness of pensioners and the iniquities of baby-boomers - exacerbated by Fatballz signature
"Baby Boomers: Taking out more than twice as much from the state as they've put in, since 1946. (That's their share, your share, and they're starting on your kids share). "

We've heard the scorn poured out on mothers/mothers in law who don't help/interfere/not supporting their children propping up siblings, etc etc etc.

I feel that we are becoming the scapegoats for all the ills in the world. I've heard muttered comments from some 30-somethings when a friend and I have gone into a Wine Bar "oh gawd, its the coffin dodgers" - neither of us were mutton dressed as lamb nor were we Nora Batties - but that comment hurt!

We're not all bad - but it hurts when it would appear that we are all tarred with the same brush. I'm polite, helpful to EVERYONE - I still work, I pay my way and I treat people of all ages with respect - so why can we not be treated in the same way?

Maybe I should get a mobility scooter and just drive myself off the edge of a suitable cliff/riverbank - would that be the most appropriate thing to do? Or just stop reading MSE - honestly, the posts on here do seem to be the worst of the lot!

OP, you sound lovely . Alot of the threads about the rude elderly people are just people having a rant about some of the experiences they have with older people. It is not to say that all people above a certain age are not lovely and polite.

CH27

People are so flipping judgmental.

Not you OP:D

KxMx

Not all the elderly are sainted and wonderful, just like young people are not all evil, who also come in for a fair share of slagging off.

You get good& bad in every generation.

While Fatballz takes a hardline stance, it is true that some pensioners love a moan about being poor, while refusing to acknowledge the days of retiring at 60/65 with a bus pass and state pension are over and that they are very lucky indeed to have gotten those things. Just like some do realise how lucky they are.

Society generally subscribes to the idea that all elderly are faultless and some understandbly get annoyed with this, and have a rant now and then because in their own experiences it's not true.

For example young people who can't manage on their money are labelled as spendthrifts, but the elderly are in need of help and more cash in the same situation. No mention of poor budgeting for them!

I too have had a rude pensioner physically manhandle me aside becuase they wanted to be first on the bus. But far more have queued up patiently behind me

Janey3

Aaw, don't be upset, thorsoak. I'm not far behind you in years and have read the other thread.

It's the natural circle of life,though, isn't it? Each generation has a go at the next and vice versa. I remember when I was in my twenties, anyone over 50 in my book was "over the hill" These words have now come back to roost:rotfl:

Let them have their rant, sadly, old age creeps up on all of us.

I do have sympathy for the younger ones - very few jobs to be had and many treated like carp by their employers. I am so lucky that I have worked since 15 right through to 62. Jobs were two a penny when we were young. You could leave one on Friday and start another on the Monday.

Now, where did I put me zimmer!

andthethreebears

From a purely financial point of view - it is very unlikely that any generation to come will have it as good as the 'baby boomers'.
Early retirement, generous state pensions, free health care, free prescriptions, bus passes - let alone the huge rise is property prices over the last few decades meaning many having large amounts of equity to release - the 'youth of today' are unlikely to have any of that to look forward to

Welshwoofs

thorsoak - I'm of the generation that your generation's children are in and I certainly don't harbour any ill will towards the baby-boomers. Indeed I view them as pioneering with a 'get up and do' attitude that many of the younger generations lack.

To those who bemoan the easy ride of the baby boomers, I can't help but wonder if they'll selflessly refuse the inheritance of their baby boomer parents/grand-parents houses when that time comes around. Methinks not somehow

londonsurrey

Find the enclaves of decent people. One group I've joined is a mixed demographic, but all really accepting. When I did a bellydancing demo, they all joined in, even the ones with arthritis!

And give off more "don't mess with me" vibes. The bullies of this world are sensitive to easy targets.

For a start, if you feel really compelled to get a motability scooter and do yourself in, don't drive it off a cliff. Think of the beauty spot you would have sullied.

Instead, picture how much more satisfying and efficient it would be to drive it at speed, yelling out "Yeehaaa!" into that crowd of smug crowd of cowardly hecklers.

Stan_Here

When I was a kid, some 50 years ago, we lived in a road of private houses (terraced and semis, not mansions) next to a Council estate, where a lot of my friends lived. I asked my Dad why most people in our road had old cars and most people on the Council estate had newish cars. He said we are buying our house so have very little money, but the Council estate houses are rented to the occupiers at a very low rent. Didnt really understand that at the time but do now. So owning your own house and paying for it for 25-30 years left a much lower disposable income than those people renting at what were, then, very low rents. I know its different now.

So perhaps us very fortunate people who own our own houses, and our parents before us, have had a down side that no-one wants to recognise any longer. All my friends on the Council estate went on holiday, sometimes twice a year. We didnt.

I will have a good pension. But I started saving for it at the age of 18. People moaning about the lack of decent pensions can have private pension too if they do this instead of spending all of their cash, but of course they dont, they just want it handed to them later on.

Dont knock the baby boomers, they didnt create the society, they just lived in it.

On the original topic, I had our first weekend away when our kids were 7 and 5. Lack of money caused this and lack of family support network where we lived. Its very important to maintain the relationship and as that didnt happen effectively I ended up divorced. You can be a good parent, expand your childrens life experience by letting them experience care from others you trust, and keep some focus on your own relationship. Its a balance. If I had been given the opportunity to take a break with my wife on a regular basis perhaps the marriage would have survived.

Getting old is going to happen to these younger people who think us older ones should not have the right to go out and enjoy life. But by the time they get to 60ish they will still be working because they do not make provision for their later years, preferring to spend it now.

wapow

The young moan about the past and how they had it good.
Its just typical isnt it? The young dont wanna work or do anything useful. Just moan moan moan.

The old do the same!!! Albeit a little of the opposite but most of it is the same!

Youre all the bloody same!

Now then OP - Youre an old dog that is not going to learn new tricks. Just live your life to the full because there arent may years left! The world is ending in a few months!