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Watchdog/Brendan Kiely

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  • mealone
    mealone Posts: 527 Forumite
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    bump,bump:D:D
  • LandyAndy
    LandyAndy Posts: 26,377 Forumite
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    bump, bump.
  • propertyman
    propertyman Posts: 2,922 Forumite
    Your having to bump the htread is a reflection of how these situations occur. A great deal of fuss and nosie is created,, which dies down after a few days, and the landlords go back to profitering and the ill fated tenants suffering.

    Most of us assuage our sense of outrage, and then wander off.

    Is it any wonder why a government feels no need to tackle the issue?
    Stop! Think. Read the small print. Trust nothing and assume that it is your responsibility. That way it rarely goes wrong.
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  • Gingernutty
    Gingernutty Posts: 3,769 Forumite
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    I was shocked and disgusted to hear of a scam whereby would be tenants are conned out of a retainer fee which the company has no intention of honouring.

    It seems the company takes fees from a number of different interested parties who all end up disappointed and up to £200 out of pocket.

    The informative consumer rights programme Watchdog on BBC television demonstrates the scam in one of it's 'in-depth' investigations.

    You have until 8:59PM Thu, 19 Apr 2012 (that's tonight) to watch the shocking goings on.

    Disgusting, I tell you.........

    There, is that bump shameless enough? ;)
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  • LandyAndy
    LandyAndy Posts: 26,377 Forumite
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    Your having to bump the htread is a reflection of how these situations occur. A great deal of fuss and nosie is created,, which dies down after a few days, and the landlords go back to profitering and the ill fated tenants suffering.

    Most of us assuage our sense of outrage, and then wander off.

    Is it any wonder why a government feels no need to tackle the issue?

    You are absolutely right. And this would have been dead in 48 hours if the idiot Hometrader/Kielys hadn't decided on their very odd response.
  • pinkteapot
    pinkteapot Posts: 8,044 Forumite
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    OMG! Just caught up and seen this episode. So annoyed with that guy that I came here to see if there was already a thread about it.

    Re the lady who moved into a damp property because they didn't get the repairs done before her move-in date... He said she should have just moved into a different house, that her standards must be too low and she needs to work a bit harder.

    !!!!!!, there are some bar stewards in the world. To quote Friends, I hope he comes back in his next life as a toilet brush.
  • pinkteapot wrote: »
    OMG! Just caught up and seen this episode. So annoyed with that guy that I came here to see if there was already a thread about it.

    Re the lady who moved into a damp property because they didn't get the repairs done before her move-in date... He said she should have just moved into a different house, that her standards must be too low and she needs to work a bit harder.

    !!!!!!, there are some bar stewards in the world. To quote Friends, I hope he comes back in his next life as a toilet brush.

    The woman did NOT actually move in and if you go onto the forum thread "Has anyone heard of a company called Hometrader Group" you will actually see a post by her indicating that she had a cheque in the post the day after the programme was aired and an apology ( quite rightly so too). She moved into another house with another letting agent. She did have a very bad experience but I believe the company has dealt with over 5000 tenants over the past few years with just a handful of complaints so all in all not so horrendous. The company have clearly made mistakes but has every single letting agent in the country not had complaints (some justified others maybe not) at some point or another.lets hope that this guy gets it right from now on and does not let the same awful treatment happen to others !!! Unfortunately people with an axe to grind will post complaints not those who are happy as they do not give these forums a second thought!! Just human nature I guess!
  • Cotton11 wrote: »
    The woman did NOT actually move in and if you go onto the forum thread "Has anyone heard of a company called Hometrader Group" you will actually see a post by her indicating that she had a cheque in the post the day after the programme was aired and an apology ( quite rightly so too). She moved into another house with another letting agent. She did have a very bad experience but I believe the company has dealt with over 5000 tenants over the past few years with just a handful of complaints so all in all not so horrendous. The company have clearly made mistakes but has every single letting agent in the country not had complaints (some justified others maybe not) at some point or another.lets hope that this guy gets it right from now on and does not let the same awful treatment happen to others !!! Unfortunately people with an axe to grind will post complaints not those who are happy as they do not give these forums a second thought!! Just human nature I guess!

    The fact that they did this the day after the show aired detracts from their credibility- they didn't do it for anything other then show. And maybe the behaviour demonstrated in the show isn't something which happens all through the company- but it was certainly rife in the branch that was shown on Watchdog, and it wasn't just one member of staff.

    Even if it were just those 'few' branches, and the rest of the company was 'innocent', those involved should all surely lose their jobs for diverting away from company policy so grossly? That would certainly be interesting- I wonder how many of them would say they'd been sacked for acting as they were told to?
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  • pinkteapot
    pinkteapot Posts: 8,044 Forumite
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    My point was not about what happened to the lady in question, but about the attitude of the company owner/manager; the way he talked about his customers. The specifics of one individual case can always be taken with a bit of a pinch of salt, but he has that attitude about all of his customers and that is outrageous.
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,704 Forumite
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    edited 23 April 2012 at 8:08PM
    A wee pointer to another thread related to this fine & upstanding family & group of companies...

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/731141

    Clearly Brendan Kiely is a successful, kind, well-respected man who has provide bounty beyond expectation for his vocal investors & his lucky tenant/occupiers. Britain is lucky to have leaders of such a caliber! Aye, right (modern Scots usage...)

    May I gently therefore suggest that the powers that be correct the records on both Companies House & Landregistry??

    At Companies House (cheap, only costs £1..)

    we have a record of a liquidated company (odd....why liquidated??) - HOMETRADER LIMITED, Registered number 03686963

    with one of the directors (and others - eg Da......), with his home address

    --- anyone wishing to invest with this respected financial guru may use this cheap, £1 only, method to find him & communicate with him.

    KIELY, BRENDAN ANTHONY MR
    OAK......., B.... R..., L..., LA..., FY...
    - or check out 06384259, HOMETRADER GROUP PLC

    ? Surely Hometrader Limited can't be liqidated can it??

    ... if we then use the Land Registry - see...
    http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/
    to check out the property (Oak....) it seems that we have records of (Almost as cheap, only £4...)
    C: Charges Register
    This register contains any charges and other matters that affect the land.
    ....................
    5 (09.06.2006) REGISTERED CHARGE dated 2 June 2006.
    6 (09.06.2006) Proprietor: B..............
    of M............
    D............., trading as T......
    7 (09.06.2006) The proprietor of the Charge dated 2 June 2006 referred to above is under an obligation to make further advances.
    These advances will have priority to the extent afforded by
    section 49(3) Land Registration Act 2002.
    8 (13.11.2007) REGISTERED CHARGE dated 31 May 2007.
    9 (13.11.2007) Proprietor: THE C............. (Co. Regn. No.
    9.........) of No. 2 C...............
    10 (04.07.2011) UNILATERAL NOTICE in respect of an interim charging
    order dated 2. J.. 2011 in the Blackpool County Court under
    reference 0BC00517.
    NOTE: Copy filed.
    11 (04.07.2011) BENEFICIARY: S............
    12 (06.03.2012) Equitable charge created by a Final charging order of
    the Liverpool County Court dated 1. F... 2012 in favour of
    J.............
    Anyone know what charging orders are for??

    btw these data are all Public Information, available to all, for a small fee, no restrictions...
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