Private Parking Ticket; Why to Ignore & not pay (Very Long Post)

give_them_FA

It appears to me that the passenger is the driver's agent?

Belle67

I posted a little while ago when i received a ticket and was advised to just ignore ignore ignore !! Which I have done...then yesterday I had a letter from Roxburghe Debt Collectors Saying I now owe Total Parking Solutions Ltd £198.

It says to contact their solicitor Graham White who will review the case for potential legal action.

It also says " We are aware of anecdotal information being presented via the internet and on various websites and you may feel this is guidance is worth following. We strongly urge you to seek independent legal advice rather than rely on these opinions and we would respectively suggest that you refer to the Civil Procedure Rules part 31* and more specifically parts 31.16 and 31.17.

Can someone tell me, are these scare tactics and should I continue to ignore them. I am a single mum who has recently been very ill and is suffering from a chronic illness. My nerves can't take much more

Would be greatful for some good advice please

give_them_FA

This is a standard Roxburghe letter. As they are evidently feeling the squeeze with people being put wise to them by this and other forums, they are doing their best to try and baffle you with pseudo-legal garbage.

The Civil Procedure Rules they refer to have absolutely no relevance to any case relating to their demands.

"Graham White" is NOT actually a solicitor at all. It is Roxburghe using different headed paper.

It is all part of the same tired scam. NONE of it will happen, EVER. The last time Roxburghe ever appeared in Court, they were being sued for harassment and they LOST the case. And that was years and years ago.

Patience! You will get one or two letters from Roxburghe posing as "Graham White" after which.... nothing. They will realise that you are not one of the MUGS and will stop wasting postage writing.

The sum demanded then drops to £0.00 and stays that way.

Remember, these people make a living telling lies. Laugh at them!
PLease, just keep ignoring. Look in the sticky thread (2nd from top in list) to confirm it gets sent to everyone. No-one gets taken to court.

And I can assure you I speak from experience!!

And take a look at this one, Belle: could hardly have come on at a more opportune moment for you:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3927329

Belle67

Thankyou so much for your quick response, I have read both posts and I will now just ignore. My mind has been put at rest, thankyou so much again. I am moving in 4 weeks so am stressed enough lol but at least now i have one less thing to worry about :j

HO87

Belle67 wrote: »

It also says " We are aware of anecdotal information being presented via the internet and on various websites and you may feel this is guidance is worth following. We strongly urge you to seek independent legal advice rather than rely on these opinions and we would respectively suggest that you refer to the Civil Procedure Rules part 31* and more specifically parts 31.16 and 31.17

Just to be absolutely clear that the so-called "anecdotal information" that Poxburghe, Roxborg Roxburghe so disingenuously describe it as, is not mere anecdote but fact.

Their intention in pointing you towards these sections of the Civil Procedure Rules is to make it appear that they can obtain a court order that would direct you to divulge whatever information they ask for.

What they so carefully avoid telling you is what it says right at the start of this section:

31.1 (1) This Part sets out rules about the disclosure and inspection of documents.

(2) This Part applies to all claims except a claim on the small claims track.

And the reason for that?

Any of the matters that they could be involved in as far as car park invoices are concerned - if they ever went to court - are going to be dealt with on the small claims track.

But of course adding that information destroys their attempt at brow-beating you into paying them. Can't have that can we?

Stephen_Leak

"We are aware of ... information being presented via the internet and on various websites and ... this is guidance is worth following".

At least they can get something right.

Belle, make sure that your mail is dealt with. PPC's love it if their letters are returned. They then know that they can take the person to court, safe in the knowledge that the court papers will probably also be returned and the person won't attend the court to defend themselves. They then win by default. The legal system doesn't do draws.

give_them_FA

They really are getting desperate, aren't they? Taking lying to a whole new level... we must be hitting them harder than we realised!

Ch4rlotte

Hi, I am glad i found this site as i have been slightly worried about several letters i have received to date from CP Plus.

I parked at Watford Gap Services on the 01/03/12 for 3 hours and four minutes. They sent me a 'notice' on the 7/03/12 and then a reminder on the 22/03/12. Apparently, full payment has not been received and the deadline for valid written representations against the Charge Notice has expired.

A further letter has now been received with a further fee of £40 to cover additional administration costs!

The fee is now £120. To avoid this being passed to legal dept. for further action i am required to pay.

The letter also states that my ability to obtain credit MAY be affected if they have to take this matter to their solicitors. There is also a small stamp next to this disclaimer with the words 'Approved Operator' BPA.

The address to return payment to is: PO Box 599, Borehamwood, Herts, WD6 4ZL.

The question is that despite looking at all the threads and taking some comfort from them i am still nervous and not sure what to do next.

I really dont want endless letter being sent but im also disgusted at the amount of money they are demanding. There should be a law against this type of thing.

Please advise me what i should do. I would like to send them a letter with all the legal ramifications pointed out to them.

I have not engaged with them in any kind of of response to date.

esmerobbo

"The letter also states that my ability to obtain credit MAY be affected if they have to take this matter to their solicitors."

Utter nonsense their solicitor would have to take you to court (wont happen) win (very unlikely) Then you never paid any Judgement within 28 days, but seeing as CP Plus have never done court with or without a solicitor, simply carry on ignoring them.

AlexisV

Charlotte - keep on ignoring. CP Plus are one of the tamer companies and don't deviate from their templated letter chain.