iphone v Android discussions

bubblesmoney

mrochester wrote: »

Something about the size of the Xperia P but doesn't suffer from any lag and jerkiness and with a decent PPI so that text is crisp and sharp? I would dearly love to find one so that I had more options than just the iPhone! So far the only other devices that have partially met these requirements are Windows Phone devices; there has literally been no choice when it comes to Android. And even the Windows Phone devices haven't been ideal due to the PPI, but they are least a good size and not laggy.

iOS fragmentation is real too http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/12/new-features-in-ios-6-receive-spotty-support-from-older-devices/ see the image on the link.

just saying that a device has the latest software "number" isnt the same as getting all the features of that software update. Its like there is iOS6 premium / cheap / el cheapo versions. while all can gloat about having iOS6 but what it can do is a different ball game.

people talk about android fragmentation. I dont dent it is an issue but even 2.1 android devices which are more than 2y old software can do what iOS 6 can just about do now and some which it cant do still.

see the videos on this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tQjE9h7jkA&list=PLF2E689203EE62F20&index=4&feature=plpp_video

and see more on this playlist of what it cant do http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF2E689203EE62F20&feature=view_all

playing the pixel game on phones is like playing the megapixel game on cameras. its not just the number that counts. i have loads of friends and colleagues who have iphones and many of them are now buying android phones after seeing the quality of the screen and what my samsung galaxy note can do (some features can be seen in the videos on the play list linked). I would consider buying an iphone or anyother OS depending on the features but at present none of the other OS's cut it in terms of features compared with android. By features i mean what is shown in the play list linked already.

I am not saying the iphone is not a good phone but what i am saying is that android phones can do all that and more. certainly there may be some apps on ios not available on android but there will be alternatives. The boot fits the other way too, try finding an app like tasker on iOS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBeEEuT-Lrw and a long video on tasker showing more features but even that is the tip of the iceberg of what this app can do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyLpIpHESRM That single app on android can beat the !!!! out of most iOS apps if you know what it can do.

mrochester

23n1th wrote: »

Bait for the "Fanboy Requirement" AKA " The Goal Post Moving" game... not taken.

I think you need to break free from whatever spell Google has over you and realise that in a lot of circumstances, an iPhone, or Windows Phone, or some other phone other than one running Android, is a better choice.

Currently the newest top spec Android phones beat the newest top spec iPhones.. simple example Samsung Galaxy S3 vs iPhone 4S. iPhone lacks in so many areas and some iWorshipers just cannot get over it.

Don't forget that you also have to consider the software, services and overall experience that a device offers too. It's not just about the spec.

I like to give the iSheep a chance but I've played the "Fanboy Requirements" game before.

You can't win and thats why they try it every time. It doesn't matter how many examples you show them they will always find something it doesn't have that their iThing does.

Its goes something like this:

Sheep: - I love apple they make the best everything!!!!! Apple are the bestest ever in the world EVER!!!!

Normal person: - I don't really like them, they're over expensive and my [insert competing item] does what [insert iThing] can do but cheaper.

Sheep: - Thats rubbish its [insert made up fault] and doesn't even have [insert obscure requirement iThing has that competing item doesn't] I couldn't possibly use it.

Normal person: - Ok this has the [insert competing item that has obsure requirement Sheep specified] and its still cheaper.

Sheep: - Well that doesn't have [insert another obscure requirement iThing has that competing item doesn't; now bordering on the the idiotic, such is the stupidity of the requirement].

Normal person: - Ok this has the [insert competing item that fits with obscure requirement] and its still cheaper.

Sheep: - Well that doesn't have [insert obscure requirement iThing has that competing item doesn't; now just a plain stupid requirement].

REPEAT X 10 THEN:

Normal person: - [Realising whats going on] Could it be that it doesn't matter what I show you it wont be good enough because it isn't made by apple?

Sheep: - [Lying though teeth] No I would dearly love to find one so that I had more options than just the [insert iThing]!

Normal person: - [Mistakenly thinks they might be dealing with a normal human being] Well I'm not going to be able to find an exact copy of your [insert iThing], apple would sue the hell out of them!

Sheep: - [Smug, the heathen just admitted defeat, asks innocently] I take it that means there is no [insert competing item] that meets my requirements then else you'd have an answer for me?

Normal person: - [Gob-smacked at the stupidity of the discussion] Not if what you are looking for is an [insert iThing] clone.

Sheep: - [insanely laughing] HAHAHAHAH! you loose!!!!!!!! Apple are the bestest ever in the world EVER!!!!

Normal person: - [Worries how the human race will survive should this moron breed!]
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It saves a lot of time just not engaging with them, realising they are never going to look beyond their [insert iThing] unless its an updated [insert iThing] means you can deny them their only other pleasure; preaching about apple.

Of course for a couple of posts you have to put up with the pathetic baiting attempts pleading for you to engage in their game:

Sheep: - I shall take that to mean that there are no [insert competing item] that meet these requirements. I was just challenging you to show me all of these "choices" I apparently have, yet there are none as you can't come up with any.

Translated as: - Please, please, start the game pleeeeaasseee!!

This just proves my point that there isn't always an Android device to meet every requirement. I'm glad you seem to understand this. Now stop giving the impression that there is!

mrochester

I'm sure the original poster of your quote did take that into account, as I have, and found, as I did, that android is just better than the iphone.

The OP just mentioned the spec, hence I pointed out that there's more to it than just the hardware spec.

Being unwilling to compromise on stupid, obscure, and moronic requirements is a fanboy staple.

All you're saying there is that everyone should have the same requirements as you, and anything that differs is 'stupid, obscure and moronic'. It seems to me you're trying to coerce people into thinking the same way you do....hmmm, there's a fruit named company you accuse of doing the exact same thing. Oh the irony! The sad thing is, you apparently can't see that you're doing it.

mrochester

So are we playing, find an iphone that meets my requirements. Hurry up!

There probably isn't an iPhone that meets your needs. See, it's that easy! I'm a firm believer that a phone should bend to my requirements and not the other way around. I will buy the device that allows me to make the fewest compromises. There is absolute no point on deliberately making more compromises just to buy a particular product, no matter how many people tell you you should.

thegoodman

It's incorrect. Android do have higher malware

23n1th wrote: »

So was the hardware of the 4 ... Was it laggy?[/B]

I don't think iphone most users will know what you mean by this.
The iOS is made for iPhone unlike Android phones, so the hardware requirements are lower and still works better.
joke:
Google’s definition of an upgrade?
Take old bugs out, put new ones in.

daindian

thegoodman wrote: »

I don't think iphone most users will know what you mean by this.
The iOS is made for iPhone unlike Android phones, so the hardware requirements are lower and still works better.
joke:
Google’s definition of an upgrade?
Take old bugs out, put new ones in.

I'm assuming English isn't your strong point?? I don't understand your first sentence??

mrochester

23n1th wrote: »

Who's telling you to make compromises you don't want to?

Also was the hardware of the 4 not able to run iOS properly? Was it laggy?

You.........

Being unwilling to compromise on stupid, obscure, and moronic requirements

thegoodman

It's incorrect. Android do have higher malware

23n1th wrote: »

Oh I see now you're trying to imply my reply to your attempt at baiting me into playing your fanboy game is somehow telling you to compromise. Taken in context this is not the case.

So now thats cleared up you can now finally answer this:- was the hardware of the 4 not able to run iOS properly? Was it laggy?

I don't think it would be laggy. The iOS is made for iPhones so the hardware requirement is lower. The reason Android need faster hardware is due to
1. So many phone manufactures such as htc, samsung, Sony etc.
2. Many screen size
3. Many companies add their stuff on the top of Android os.
4. The Google run their on malware checker while you are using the phone.

All of them item need power. That's why Android phones have higher hardware but still work slower.

Q: How many Android users do you need to install the app.
A: 51. 1 to install and 50 to check the access rights.

nsabournemouth

It's incorrect. Android do have higher malware

I think back in 2007 an iPhone owner could well say their phone was the best on the market.Now, that isn't quite the case. The Galaxy Note does things an iPhone can't,a Galaxy S II was better in terms of specs than the iPhone 4S even though it is a year older.

Apple do play catchup now, they aren't ahead of the game and are no saints when it comes to taking what Android can do and putting it in their OS updates. There is no question that Apple changed the game but Samsung have now taken the crown as the biggest mobile manufacturer, they've only been in the smartphone market for a couple of years and HTC have done a very good job with the One X.

One of you also needs to understand how apps work on various OS. How is Instagram different in terms of what it needs access to in order to work on say, the iPhone 4S or the Galaxy S II?

thegoodman

It's incorrect. Android do have higher malware

23n1th wrote: »

I'm still waiting on chester answering my question, as according to him the hardware doesn't matter so much. If thats the case and if iOS runs fine on the 4, why the needless hardware upgrade (rubbish as it was)???

It's true the hardware is not everything. Look at the mac Pc, most have lower specification in compare to Windows but work faster.
The reason is the same windows os is made to work on so many type of pc's made by many companies.

This is not to say hardware will not improve, it will. What android can do with faster hardware, the iPhone can do the same and more with less memory and power.

While in profit companies will spend money to make device smaller, faster, longer battery life etc. Look at the screen for example, after Apple released the ratina display others started improving the screen.
Same as the Google map is first, others started to improve on it.

The Google is coming with newer version of Android every few months, so it must know its not perfect otherwise why release new version?

The changes will go on and on.