iphone v Android discussions

Mista_C

thegoodman wrote: »

Don't forget to vote.
What poll do you think we should have next?
Recommendations welcome, thanks.

What's the point of voting on a loaded question?

Do you, thegoodman, wear: -

a) red lace panties
b) black lace panties

Do you see the problem there?

DUTR

Mista_C wrote: »

What's the point of voting on a loaded question?

Do you, thegoodman, wear: -

a) red lace panties
b) black lace panties

Do you see the problem there?

The reply maybe MOST people wear the nylon variety :T

thegoodman

It's incorrect. Android do have higher malware

This is not the loaded question.
Some of you have said that malware is same as a % of apps on all os. Why malware numbers higher for android?

DUTR

theiDiot wrote: »

This is not the loaded question.
Some of you have said that malware is same as a % of apps on all os. Why malware numbers higher for android?

It is a loaded question, why did you not put the vote as, do people really care whether there are more reported malware on android than other OS? or because the answers would be yes but we don't care, would that satisfy you then? As the reality is they are not going to change their choice of device, we note you have not commented on the links to the apple malware saga, or is it that in your mind it does not exist?

dealer_wins

thegoodman wrote: »

Don't forget to vote.
What poll do you think we should have next?
Recommendations welcome, thanks.

Stupid biased poll, from a biased member.

Cant we vote to get rid of you?

Mista_C

thegoodman wrote: »

This is not the loaded question.
Some of you have said that malware is same as a % of apps on all os. Why malware numbers higher for android?

Assuming the following points as true for the sake of the opinion poll.

If Malware is same on all os as % of apps, why download number higher for Android?

A) It's incorrect. Android does have more malware
It's correct. The numbers of malware are equal for all OSes
C) Android is the more popular OS therefore even though there are the same number of apps there are more instances of downloads per app.
D) The official figures released for malware downloads are distorted between operating systems therefore it only appears Android users are the most infected.
E) Apple put obstacles in the way of security firms so a true representation isn't available and any figures are best guesses.

I could go on. There are a lot of factors and variables you haven't considered (or maybe have but they won't back you up) in your poll. The question you put is loaded because to answer A) agrees that Android does have more malware, answer agrees that more Android users download malware than any other device.

Like the options I gave you in my previous post means that choosing any answer means you wear panties. A quick glance would appear I'm interested in finding out the colour of your panties when in fact it's a way of getting you to admit you wear panties. In this case it's obvious, in the case of many polls the distinctions are a lot more subtle.

Where's your impartiality? There is none and the irony is you sit there calling anyone who disagrees with you an Android fanboy when in truth the only person coming across as a fanboy is yourself, iOS fanboy.

You seem to be unable to tell the difference between the operating system and the delivery system as well. The App Store goes through a more rigorous submission process than Google Play. Google Play therefore becomes the better candidate to deploy malicious software but when it comes to the OS they're on equal footing with malicious code being injected through the browser, or being relayed via a host machine. In the past Android has fared better in those circumstances as in didn't require a host PC for synchronisation in the way that previous version of iOS did.

You rubbished one of my previous posts regarding earlier Jailbreak methods. One of those Jailbreaks was achieved by taking advantage of a browser injection, later to be replaced by manipulating a PDF display component...

http://www.pcworld.com/article/202367/the_webbased_ios_jailbreak_tool_how_does_it_work.html

Of course you'll either ignore this post or refute it without any evidence to back it up because, well, you're an iOS fanboy.

thegoodman

It's incorrect. Android do have higher malware

Your points don't make sense.
If malware is same as % of total apps then malware download would be in line with that.

If you look at the sell numbers
One malware on iPhone in 5 years to 700,000 malware down loads just in three months. Why download rate is so high on Android?
Others only need to search on Google for malware android
And also try malware iPhone
Do you think Google is trying to give more searches for Android due to open source or making searches up to make Android look bad?
Why would google do that?

JJ_Egan

I don't actually believe the figures of 700,000 malware downloads in three month no matter what the source .
Does not make sense for Android users here and on other forums not to be posting help i have malware . I mean there are three hundred million of them using the OS in one form or another with the majority using Google store .

Would i say Google store is risk free no but neither is the Windows PC i am typing this on .Windows has had malware and malware catchers for many years . The whole mobile industry has been slow on the uptake with malware catchers as the risk so far has been that small .

jje

Mista_C

thegoodman wrote: »

Your points don't make sense.
If malware is same as % of total apps then malware download would be in line with that.

If you look at the sell numbers
One malware on iPhone in 5 years to 700,000 malware down loads just in three months. Why download rate is so high on Android?

No, once again that's 1 piece of iOS malware found on the App Store, not "One malware on iPhone in 5 years". The App Store is not iOS let that part sink in.

Others only need to search on Google for malware android
And also try malware iPhone
Do you think Google is trying to give more searches for Android due to open source or making searches up to make Android look bad?
Why would google do that?

You want to know why more Android malware is reported? The reason is because there are real-time anti virus/malware applications available for Android, something Apple has rejected time and time again when submitted for App Store.
Now, how does average Joe Public check for malware on iOS? No real-time scan available so the only way is to wait for some bizarre behaviour to indicate something's not right, can you imagine, on any OS, only finding about you've got malware by waiting for an oddity to occur?

thegoodman

It's incorrect. Android do have higher malware

Are you saying the Amazon App Store on Android is going to less safe because apps are pre checked for malware before release so no need for virus checker to check apps?
If what you are saying is true why it's taking Google Play 6-8 weeks to find malware and remove?