Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

Quentin

Why quote MSE Dan at me - when you come here with the stated aim "to wind some of them up a bit"? Clearly others should be made aware of your true motive!

And we all are aware of your other hidden agenda - to get this thread closed!

Cardew

operastar wrote: »

Now I've answered your question perhaps you can demonstrate your integrity by answering mine:

You haven't answered my question; you have avoided it:

My question specifically is about this statement:

For the benefit of new readers, and existing UW customers, be advised that:

UW gas and electricity is just about the most expensive in UK and £hundreds more than the cheapest tariff - generally around 30%.

That fact can be confirmed by checking the tariffs in any comparison website or by comparing the tariffs yourself. Use the WHICH comparison website if you wish.

There is no need to listen to either side of the argument on this thread, just confirm the facts with any independent source.

As an example the average UK customer uses 20,500kWh gas and 3,300kWh electricity. In my area(Midlands) that will cost £894 with the cheapest supplier, the cheapest UW tariff is £1,199. That is £305 and 34% more expensive if you are silly enough to have UW as your gas and electricity supplier.

Is it true or false?

Cardew

operastar wrote: »

I've seen you do this so many times, Cardew.

Yes we are fully aware you have seen this many times - new to MSE are you not:o The same tactics you have used before will not work.

You still haven't answered the question.

For the benefit of new readers, and existing UW customers, be advised that:

UW gas and electricity is just about the most expensive in UK and £hundreds more than the cheapest tariff - generally around 30%.

That fact can be confirmed by checking the tariffs in any comparison website or by comparing the tariffs yourself. Use the WHICH comparison website if you wish.

There is no need to listen to either side of the argument on this thread, just confirm the facts with any independent source.

As an example the average UK customer uses 20,500kWh gas and 3,300kWh electricity. In my area(Midlands) that will cost £894 with the cheapest supplier, the cheapest UW tariff is £1,199. That is £305 and 34% more expensive if you are silly enough to have UW as your gas and electricity supplier.

Is this true or not?

Cardew

operastar wrote: »

Truly pathetic. But par for the course. What is the point anyone entering into a discussion with such a bigot as you? Carry on with your online-only ego tour, 'Billy'.

Here's one for you: anyone who regularly shops at Sainsburys owes it to themselves to check out at least one UW product. If they are into money saving, of course (which rules out you on at least one count).

Don't want or need a discussion - just a simple answer if the statement below is accurate or not.

For the benefit of new readers, and existing UW customers, be advised that:

UW gas and electricity is just about the most expensive in UK and £hundreds more than the cheapest tariff - generally around 30%.

That fact can be confirmed by checking the tariffs in any comparison website or by comparing the tariffs yourself. Use the WHICH comparison website if you wish.

There is no need to listen to either side of the argument on this thread, just confirm the facts with any independent source.

As an example the average UK customer uses 20,500kWh gas and 3,300kWh electricity. In my area(Midlands) that will cost £894 with the cheapest supplier, the cheapest UW tariff is £1,199. That is £305 and 34% more expensive if you are silly enough to have UW as your gas and electricity supplier.

You are reverting to type;)

markharding557

MSE_Dan wrote: »

Can everyone please keep this thread on-topic. Repetitive arguments will lead to it being removed.

I think this tread should be closed it is an absurdly long never ending serires of bickering.

naf123

i havent got the stomach to read 500 pages about the UW.

Can someone, please sum up whats all this debate on about?

I dont want to hear if its good or bad. Just give both sides of the arguement

thanks

Cardew

naf123 wrote: »

i havent got the stomach to read 500 pages about the UW.

Can someone, please sum up whats all this debate on about?

I dont want to hear if its good or bad. Just give both sides of the arguement

thanks

One side of the argument is lots of UW salesmen(there are over 30,000 of them) or people with vested interests trying to promote UW. They do this all over the internet by pretending to be satisfied customers.

The other side of the argument is that some of us are determined to oppose them and not let them get away with those tactics on MSE. Also to demonstrate that their gas and electricity prices are just about the highest in UK.

This post sums it up.

For the benefit of new readers, and existing UW customers, be advised that:

UW gas and electricity is just about the most expensive in UK and £hundreds more than the cheapest tariff - generally around 30%.

That fact can be confirmed by checking the tariffs in any comparison website or by comparing the tariffs yourself. Use the WHICH comparison website if you wish.

There is no need to listen to either side of the argument on this thread, just confirm the facts with any independent source.

As an example the average UK customer uses 20,500kWh gas and 3,300kWh electricity. In my area(Midlands) that will cost £894 with the cheapest supplier, the cheapest UW tariff is £1,199. That is £305 and 34% more expensive if you are silly enough to have UW as your gas and electricity supplier.

Quentin

uptomyeyeballs wrote: »

I don't want the thread to be closed, even though some give the impression that I do...

Closely followed by:

uptomyeyeballs wrote: »

I agree that this thread needs to be closed ....

And you want us to forget you are on a self confessed wind up mission???

penrhyn

From the Energyhelpline website:

They provide a basic service and are marketed via a network marketing model of sales agents who get a cut of your bill and encourage you to sell on Utility Warehouse to your friends for commission.

There are a number of non-standard pricing arrangements with Utility Warehouse tariffs which you should be aware of:
1. For the application process you will be charged £10 which will be netted off your first bill
2. The dual fuel discount is only paid at the end of each year and is subject to a clawback if you leave within the next 3 months.
3. You will be charged an annual membership fee of about £22 per year to use their services (included in the projected spend on the results table) .
4. All standing charges are charged monthly upfront and then unit rates are charged monthly in arrears - most suppliers charge for all things monthly or quarterly in arrears.

For many customers they offer competitive prices although their standard of service is something of an unknown quantity (Consumer Focus reports do not contain figures on their complaint levels, etc as they are a small supplier).

People typically sign up to Utility Warehouse through an agent who will call you and ask you to fill in a paper form and post it back to head office. During this phone or house call the rep will generally attempt to cross-sell a number of other utility services that they provide eg. phones, mobile, etc. If you take other services you can qualify for bundled discounts.


The debate is largely about whether a customer can save money by using them, and the sales methods employed by their sales agents.


PS Who will make the 10,000 post?

Quentin

penrhyn wrote: »

From the Energyhelpline website:

That info looks out of date

eg they don't give any dual fuel discount at the end of each year, and of course their prices aren't competitive at all!